Davis Wade

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

As far as the concept of putting in a hotel down there, I love it. I actually like the original rendering. I'm sure it will go thru several revisions but it's a great start and very unique.

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This.

Also be curious to know how much does the hotel developer pay, how much do we pay? I assume it will be a hotel franchise of some kind.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Guy on Sixpack nailed it by combining our design with Troy's. This is more down the road I'd like to see things go.

https://i.imgur.com/VcBlXQG.jpg

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I think some of the concern with the AD is losing the Junction space but that will happen if they bowl the stadium.

Seems to me that putting balconies on all the rooms discourages people from buying the premium seating they are already purchasing and that money all goes to the school/Bulldog Club. You won't recoup that loss by selling rooms with balconies in which the majority of fees go to whatever chain does put it's name on the hotel side.

Another thing to think about, I like that you can see into the stadium from the Junction and that you can see the Junction from inside the stadium. When all the tents are out and you can see all the people walking around, it makes them so much a part of each other and I think it adds atmosphere. Completely bowling in the stadium eliminates that.

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Originally Posted by MaroonBelle

Seems to me that putting balconies on all the rooms discourages people from buying the premium seating they are already purchasing and that money all goes to the school/Bulldog Club. You won't recoup that loss by selling rooms with balconies in which the majority of fees go to whatever chain does put it's name on the hotel side.

Another thing to think about, I like that you can see into the stadium from the Junction and that you can see the Junction from inside the stadium. When all the tents are out and you can see all the people walking around, it makes them so much a part of each other and I think it adds atmosphere. Completely bowling in the stadium eliminates that.

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Agree with your first part & meh on your 2nd part.

I just want to see whatever we build in the South Endzone enhance the atmosphere & experience INSIDE DWS. IMO this rendering does not do that & thus needs to be tweeked to do so.

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Originally Posted by MaroonBelle

Seems to me that putting balconies on all the rooms discourages people from buying the premium seating they are already purchasing and that money all goes to the school/Bulldog Club. You won't recoup that loss by selling rooms with balconies in which the majority of fees go to whatever chain does put it's name on the hotel side.

Another thing to think about, I like that you can see into the stadium from the Junction and that you can see the Junction from inside the stadium. When all the tents are out and you can see all the people walking around, it makes them so much a part of each other and I think it adds atmosphere. Completely bowling in the stadium eliminates that.

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Could the price of the room include some type of fee for anyone staying Friday and Saturday of a MSU home game? It would have to be close to what you would pay for a chairback so it might not be feasible but I wonder what the cost would come to.

I don't think we need any extra seats, maybe a standing only ramp kinda like the Dude, that goes from one end to the other, double deck if needed. Crazy to add seats when we barely sell out now anyway.

Duke basketball says hold my beer!

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I really disagree. Respect your opinion though. We have a blank slate here to do something unique. Let's do it.

We have the ONLY stadium in the SEC with an exposed endzone. Every single other stadium in the SEC is bowled in. It makes us look high schoolish & it's something we need to fix.

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Mizzou has the berm with M on one end. I think it adds a little character to a campus/stadium. I don't want to have a commodity just like everyone else. I want something special that no one else has. MSU broke ground on the jumbo trons, cabanas, etc.

Agree we do need to do something really good on south endzone; I'm not sure what but we only get one shot at it. Rendering looks pretty good just not sure yet if that is what we want?? Got to mull on that a while.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Mizzou has the berm with M on one end. I think it adds a little character to a campus/stadium. I don't want to have a commodity just like everyone else. I want something special that no one else has. MSU broke ground on the jumbo trons, cabanas, etc.

Agree we do need to do something really good on south endzone; I'm not sure what but we only get one shot at it. Rendering looks pretty good just not sure yet if that is what we want?? Got to mull on that a while.

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Would be pretty cool if the athletic department released maybe 3 or 4 different concepts & let the fan base discuss on the boards to see what the people want.

I've always thought it would be cool if we did something at Davis Wade similar to the Left Field Lounge at Dudy. Let folks buy their spots in the endzone and cook and tailgate during the entire game. We all know how much notoriety that the Left Field Lounge has brought to MSU. We could do something similar at David Wade that nobody else in the SEC could do. Take the hotel as it is in the renderings and put lounge spots between the hotel and stadium on both sides up to the top of the hotel. I just think that would set us apart from everyone else and definitely have everyone talking about it like they do the lounge at Dudy Noble.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Would be pretty cool if the athletic department released maybe 3 or 4 different concepts & let the fan base discuss on the boards to see what the people want.

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If those images were emailed to Brian, they probably came from the architects (almost the whole firm and certainly the named partners are MSU grads and are aware of the fan boards), and they had to know he would post them on Six Pack and would spread to other message boards from there. In all likelihood they are watching the reactions right now.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

My biggest thing is that we were so creative & trend setting at Dudy Noble & I just can't imagine why we wouldn't attempt to do something unique & trend setting here.

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The last thing I'll add is that of course it can be tweaked and potentially made even better, but this is unique and potentially trend-setting. Nobody else has a hotel that opens up into the football stadium.

Your main issue seems to be that it doesn't bowl it in, and your rationale for that is that everybody else in the SEC has it...which is the definition of not unique or trend-setting.

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Originally Posted by smootness

The last thing I'll add is that of course it can be tweaked and potentially made even better, but this is unique and potentially trend-setting. Nobody else has a hotel that opens up into the football stadium.

Your main issue seems to be that it doesn't bowl it in, and your rationale for that is that everybody else in the SEC has it...which is the definition of not unique or trend-setting.

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The main issue is what was designed here does not improve the atmosphere or experience INSIDE DWS. Anything built in that endzone should do that.

I like the look & aesthetics of the design. It just needs to serve a functional purpose in the stadium.

The main reason I want to see us bowl in the stadium is to trap cowbell noise.

It’s no surprise it got way louder in 2012->2013->2014 with bowling one end off. That noise gets trapped and rolls down the stands to make it electric on the field.

I swear some of y'all would complain about the way the check looked if you won the lottery.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

The main reason I want to see us bowl in the stadium is to trap cowbell noise.

It’s no surprise it got way louder in 2012->2013->2014 with bowling one end off. That noise gets trapped and rolls down the stands to make it electric on the field.

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Add in the sound system and you have the loudest stadium in the country. Also in my email they said the sound system got improved.

Would be cool if the team could stay there the night before games. Really keep them locked in.. Granted, I know that would likely cost the University money and would also ruin the Dawg Walk so.. yeah nvm.. lol

To me, the fact that there is a curve to the building makes it not feel like someone just plopped a rectangular hotel down. Makes it more of an extension of the stadium. Continuing the shape even though it is not connected.

I love the general idea, but agree with the notion that it should connect to, or complement the actual stadium a little better. I'm sure there will revisions to the plan.

Let Janet Marie Smith sprinkle some fairy dust on it.

The back of the scoreboard needs the huge M-State logo facing the junction. And it better light up and shoot fireworks out of it as a giant cowbell slowly protrudes from the hotel roof and starts ringing as the dawg walk occurs. Outside of the missing pool, hot tub, and the lazy river on the roof, and obviously the balaconies that need to be facing he field and the junction, I think it's close. Once they add all that, it won't look like they've moved Dorman hall to the foot of the stadium.