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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

MSU is in no way capable of matching the funding necessary to reach the CFP. We don't live in that neighborhood, we're in the nice subdivision just down the street, the one that's not gated.

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Not even going to comment on my use of you're? Lol.

Ok, what do you think the necessary funding level is?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Not even going to comment on my use of you're? Lol.

Ok, what do you think the necessary funding level is?

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Seems like close to 3/4 of a mill (or slightly more) for top-notch position coaches.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

MSU is in no way capable of matching the funding necessary to reach the CFP. We don't live in that neighborhood, we're in the nice subdivision just down the street, the one that's not gated.

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We likely were one regular season W away in 2014. Definitely in if we'd beaten Bama (even w/ a loss to Ole Miss). And if we'd beaten Ole Miss, the committee would have had to drop us from #4. It can be done. Will it happen again? Maybe, maybe not.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Not even going to comment on my use of you're? Lol.

Ok, what do you think the necessary funding level is?

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You literally have no idea do you, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Fla and UGA all have very small groups of donors that can fully fund our AD without missing it. For US to compete I'm not even sure, more than triple our current football only budget. That comes along with what do we short in order to achieve that, do we sacrifice our current culture of using football and SEC football money to fund our other sports? We don't have a group of boosters that can reach that level giving. And we will never be able to be a cohesive enough unit to put together an IPTAY like organization, that's not in our DNA.

bama and the other teams that constantly have a chance at the playoffs are the Harlem Globetrotters of college FB. The rest of us are the Washington Generals who provide a little competition until the playoffs. We are also expected to know our place and stay there or expect probation and what has happened to our coaches just two weeks b4 signing day. bama has ruined college FB and the playoffs have made the other bowls poorly attended TV programming ( except maybe NY6 games).

The last two weeks have done a lot to put us in our place for sure. The inability of schools to build a program in today's climate is scary.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

The last two weeks have done a lot to put us in our place for sure. The inability of schools to build a program in today's climate is scary.

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You might can if you're in ACC, PAC12, Big 12, and maybe Big 10. The power coaches in those conferences, like Dabo, probably have some set of ethics about them as a whole. And the ones who don't don't have the power to do the crap Saban does.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

You might can if you're in ACC, PAC12, Big 12, and maybe Big 10. The power coaches in those conferences, like Dabo, probably have some set of ethics about them as a whole. And the ones who don't don't have the power to do the crap Saban does.

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I think Saban has been terrible for college football.

As I stated earlier today, I don't think a single human has done more to decrease attendance at college football games than Nick Saban.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

The last two weeks have done a lot to put us in our place for sure. The inability of schools to build a program in today's climate is scary.

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This all day. We are not in the competitive orbit with the giants of the West. We can very easily slip back to bottom feeder at the drop of a hat. We could also stay there forever.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

This all day. We are not in the competitive orbit with the giants of the West. We can very easily slip back to bottom feeder at the drop of a hat. We could also stay there forever.

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Look at Bama's yearly schedule. It is ALWAYS spaced out so they have 2 easy games before a typically tough rival and 2 easy games after (other than maybe AU & SEC title game). While we probably wouldn't beat them, Saban don't want a team that shows up and knocks the crap out of them after LSU just beat them up physically some too. Could hurt his natty chances if his guys get hurt ... sorta like when spread offenses came out and he was afraid of his girls getting hurt then too. Saban wants that next easy game after LSU ... the 51-3, 38-7 types of games like under Mullen.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Look at Bama's yearly schedule. It is ALWAYS spaced out so they have 2 easy games before a typically tough rival and 2 easy games after (other than maybe AU & SEC title game). While we probably wouldn't beat them, Saban don't want a team that shows up and knocks the crap out of them after LSU just beat them up physically some too. Could hurt his natty chances if his guys get hurt ... sorta like when spread offenses came out and he was afraid of his girls getting hurt then too. Saban wants that next easy game after LSU ... the 51-3, 38-7 types of games like under Mullen.

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Alabama doesn't have to play Alabama. Take them off our schedule & replace them with another Kentucky type team every year and see where you end up

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Originally Posted by biggun

We won 6 games in 2016

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5 in the regular season. Only got the 6 because of graduation rate and being damn lucky beat a terrible G level team. We sucked ass in 2016.

Some of you would roll over and take it in the ass to keep from saying no.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

You literally have no idea do you, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Fla and UGA all have very small groups of donors that can fully fund our AD without missing it. For US to compete I'm not even sure, more than triple our current football only budget. That comes along with what do we short in order to achieve that, do we sacrifice our current culture of using football and SEC football money to fund our other sports? We don't have a group of boosters that can reach that level giving. And we will never be able to be a cohesive enough unit to put together an IPTAY like organization, that's not in our DNA.

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More than triple? That would give us the largest football budget in the country by 10 million.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...cuse_rank.html

Also, please tell me LSUs group of donors who would not miss 75 million dollars? Benson was the only one billionaire in the whole state of Louisiana before he died.

Lots of oil and gas money in last 25 yrs that's around. With guys that love giving it.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Some of you would roll over and take it in the ass to keep from saying no.

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And some of you would make excuses for the rapist

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Originally Posted by confucius say

More than triple? That would give us the largest football budget in the country by 10 million.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangefootb...cuse_rank.html

Also, please tell me LSUs group of donors who would not miss 75 million dollars? Benson was the only one billionaire in the whole state of Louisiana before he died.

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You’re right, all those boosters live in the states that the schools are in.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

This isn't whining, this is reality. 10 games is not competing on the big stage either, it's just winning 10 games and going to an also ran bowl game with a better paycheck.

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It's whining.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

You get bogged down in bullshat, that's doesn't matter 8 to 10 wins, who cares they may as well be equivalent. Winning that many games still doesn't get you in the CFP. It's not about what Im happy with, it's about a national championship in football that in and we can't afford to get there we don't have the resources. And thanks for the grammar I don't care.

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