MSU Football Currently Comes Down to This...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

And him not running his offense would set us back this year. There?s a trade off. If players make plays, we?re 10-2.

I don?t always agree with you, but you have a connection I do. Ask him about Fitz and you?ll learn a lot more.

---

I have heard some things about Fitz, but my first question was always why did we leave him in there then if that was the case?

There's a trade off you're right, and we traded a 10 win season in this year for what we got. Hopefully its worth it next year

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

You are singleing out 3 plays in an entire season where he tried to run something his players couldnt do. True if those kids make those 3 particular plays then we win those games, but those kids also made plays in other games that we did win.

If Moorhead had done what his team could do, we would have won at least 10. He decided it would be better to go ahead and run his system anyway, I guess he thinks its worth the sacrifice. I dont because this was a special team but thats just me.

---

Two plays of the three where the guys were open and the throws (shockingly) hit them in the hands. You recruit WRs to catch am I right?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

Heaven forbid we should ask our WR's to catch the ball.**

---

They should have caught it no doubt, but thats this game. Thats the coaching game, you are hinging your life basically on what kids do. How do we fix that? You get Jonathan Mingo and other better WRs that will catch it. But more importantly you realize what your players can do and you do that, not what your pride tells you to do

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I have heard some things about Fitz, but my first question was always why did we leave him in there then if that was the case?

There's a trade off you're right, and we traded a 10 win season in this year for what we got. Hopefully its worth it next year

---

Because I really don?t think Joe trust KT. I?ve heard some stories on that front as well.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Two plays of the three where the guys were open and the throws (shockingly) hit them in the hands. You recruit WRs to catch am I right?

---

Yep and Moorhead recruited none of them. I get it he cant catch it for them but he didnt have to keep banging his head against the wall all year doing what we obviously could not do well with what we had.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

And him not running his offense would set us back this year. There?s a trade off. If players make plays, we?re 10-2.

I don?t always agree with you, but you have a connection I do. Ask him about Fitz and you?ll learn a lot more.

---

What if Stidham had completed that wide open pass in the AU game. You can't single out 2 plays. What if Iowa didn't fumble the kick off return. We can go round and round with this shit all day. I'm not melting today like most on here, but Moorhead did a shitty job this past year.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Because I really don?t think Joe trust KT. I?ve heard some stories on that front as well.

---

I would take any player out that went out there and did the exact damn opposite of what he was being coached to do. To be fair, during the A&M game and after that Fitz improved tremendously but in the bowl game he went backwards and played like LSU fitz where he tried to get by on being an athlete. Moorhead cant control that but what he damn sure can do is yank his ass after he runs it 3 times in a row on the goaline when he was being coached to do otherwise.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I would take any player out that went out there and did the exact damn opposite of what he was being coached to do. To be fair, during the A&M game and after that Fitz improved tremendously but in the bowl game he went backwards and played like LSU fitz where he tried to get by on being an athlete. Moorhead cant control that but what he damn sure can do is yank his ass after he runs it 3 times in a row on the goaline when he was being coached to do otherwise.

---

Meh, Moorhead could be a good enough coach to have some plays under center where we get it to the RB's. Did you catch Burkhead and the Patriots tonight?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What if Stidham had completed that wide open pass in the AU game. You can't single out 2 plays. What if Iowa didn't fumble the kick off return. We can go round and round with this shit all day. I'm not melting today like most on here, but Moorhead did a shitty job this past year.

---

Auburn fumbled at the goal line. Fitz and Guidry td against aTm likely is a 1 in 100 kinda play for those 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Meh, Moorhead could be a good enough coach to have some plays under center where we get it to the RB's. Did you catch Burkhead and the Patriots tonight?

---

Spread guys aint gonna go under center, its just not going to happen. I do agree with you that we should but it just aint going to happen. I like the spread but I dont have enough pride in it to not want to get under some.

To spread and air raid guys going under is just taking away practice time of slinging it around and fumbling the snap spooks them. Also having to teach the QB a new drop spooks them

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by msstate7

Auburn fumbled at the goal line. Fitz and Guidry td against aTm likely is a 1 in 100 kinda play for those 2

---

You are supporting his argument you understand that right

For the 2nd time in 25 years we've had a golden opportunity to leave OM in the dust and we f*ck it up again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What if Stidham had completed that wide open pass in the AU game. You can't single out 2 plays. What if Iowa didn't fumble the kick off return. We can go round and round with this shit all day. I'm not melting today like most on here, but Moorhead did a shitty job this past year.

---

Wide open pass? Then that is on the coach for not having his player prepared to play. On the flip side, Gus put his guys in a position to win and they didn?t execute.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Meh, Moorhead could be a good enough coach to have some plays under center where we get it to the RB's. Did you catch Burkhead and the Patriots tonight?

---

Did you really wanna see Fitz try to go under Center?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Wide open pass? Then that is on the coach for not having his player prepared to play. On the flip side, Gus put his guys in a position to win and they didn?t execute.

---

So you've come around to my side that it's ridiculous to excuse Joe's season by pointing out 2 drops? I'm glad you came around. It's rare for message board posters to admit they were wrong. Kudos.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

You are supporting his argument you understand that right

---

Yes, I'm supporting hoops' arguement.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Did you really wanna see Fitz try to go under Center?

---

Mullen put Fitz under center in 2017

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Did you really wanna see Fitz try to go under Center?

---

No man, I love that play where Fitz takes the snap, makes 3 reads, and runs straight ahead 19 times per game. I mean, we scored 4 points per game in our 4 losses so what we were doing worked so well I wouldn't change a single thing.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

For the 2nd time in 25 years we've had a golden opportunity to leave OM in the dust and we f*ck it up again.

---

Yep, your right. How very Misipy Tate of us.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

So you've come around to my side that it's ridiculous to excuse Joe's season by pointing out 2 drops? I'm glad you came around. It's rare for message board posters to admit they were wrong. Kudos.

---

I enjoy 8 win seasons because I remember the 3 win seasons. But you made my point actually, coaches put players in position to win games. It?s the players job to execute. Auburn completes the pass okay, but Moorhead?s offense ran up and down the field that night we still would?ve won.

Now did Moorhead play to win against Iowa? No he didn?t, he played not to lose. But at the end of the day he got his guys in a position to win that game and the players did execute at all. He had guys in position to make plays against FL and they didn?t execute.

We make those two plays and we?re 10-2 and everyone is happy.