Guidry, williams, and whop were built up all offseason as the real deal and gonna be a huge upgrade. Now they're some of the worst WRs in the country... the worst according to cooter.
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Guidry, williams, and whop were built up all offseason as the real deal and gonna be a huge upgrade. Now they're some of the worst WRs in the country... the worst according to cooter.
Drops cost us 2 games. I?m going to give the WR coach a little bit of blame if y?all don?t mind. I will help him pack.
Wr coaches can teach route running and technique and hand placement and blocking and reads. Not so much the ability to catch. If we have receivers beating press coverage or sitting down in zones and being open, that's a reflection of coaching.
Y'all have been saying for weeks that we had open receivers all year. Now all of a sudden our wr coach sucked. Geez.
He's the WR's coach?
Also, to remind folks that wr's on every team in the country have had dropped passes.
Yeah but how many have had a open down the middle of the field, in the hands, dropped pass that would beat Florida or a open in the end zone for the winning TD, in the chest, dropped and intercepted? Those are the critical ones. We had way too many dropped passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Isn't he also the OC? I know Joe calls the plays, but wasn't Getsy OC in title?
Sure they do, but our drop percentage was not even league average. It was a true weaknessQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
I don't see him going back to Green Bay. He left to come be apart of Joe Moorhead's staff. I could be wrong but I just don't see him leaving.
The "Our coaches are not to blame" crowd Before season:
-"This year's team is a 9-10 Win team with last year's WR's, so the sky is the limit this year because we're much improved with Guidry, Williams, Whop, etc."
The "Our coaches are not to blame" crowd now:
-"Our WR's suck. Can't catch a cold. Fitz is trash. Fitz is also to blame for RB's not getting carries." Etc.
You guys sound dumb defending these coaches by trashing our players. The same players that most of you said were why we'd be better. I'm sure the services were wrong rating Guidry, Whop and Williams 4 stars. Meanwhile teams around the country have better offenses with worse QB's AND WR's. But we can't move the ball with a 5th year Senior and 3-4 four star wideouts? Yep, definitely all a talent issue....can't be coaching.**
I've never understood the portion of our fans that always give a pass to the guy making millions to Coach our team. Especially when it's his own specialty of a position group that is holding us back.
Hopefully you guys are right though. I hope he gets better players and it does a 180.
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Personally I've contended for awhile that Fitz was most of the issue. Guidry and Mitchell both had their moments good and bad. I was impressed with Osirus in the Outback Bowl in terms of how much he improved. Both need to be more consistent- especially Guidry. As far as Austin Williams I think a lot of that was he has a better rapport with Key. The reason I say that is he stood out in the spring when KT was the QB and it seemed like he was targeted more against Stephen F Austin and Arkansas (TD from KT in the Arkansas game) when KT was the QB. Whop may improve as well because he and KT go back to high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
And I want Getsy to stay.
Might help us actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
For the record, I told everyone they were horrible and that Williams wouldn't do anything and they all wanted the great white hope and the fast kid in juco to be stars. Guidry wasn't even great in juco and was nuttier than a squirrel turd. But the sunshiners pumped them. They're the worst in America. They were last year too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No. Funny how both of them looked a lot better the previous year before this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Williams and Guidry were wanted by other schools as well. Im not defending them they are to blame too but its not all on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We could have better recruiters than Getsy. If he stays great, if he leaves fine
You?re absolutely correct sir! We sound just like the Oklahoma State fan base that bashes Mike yurcich about how horrible he was, only to get hired by Ohio State. We got that ugly girl syndrome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
A lot better is a big stretch but Mitchell improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Guidry wasn't here and Mitchell barely played. So, I'm not understanding this comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I was meaning our WRs and QB in general both looked better in the passing game under a guy who doesnt want to throw it compared to a guy who wants to throw itQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State