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01-01-2019, 08:27 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Schrader isn't ready to be a starting qb in this league.

Why, he played against some of the best church league teams in N.C.! **
01-01-2019, 08:27 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think it's going to be Schrader & think we are all going to be surprised at 1. How much he knows the offense & 2. He's athletic enough to at worst do what Fitz did this year. Schrader is faster than Fitz.

Don't underestimate that Moorhead got HIS GUY with Schrader. He got the first offer he handed out when he got to MSU & he got a guy that he's been recruiting since he was a sophomore in HS.

What we don't know about Schrader is how well he already knows this offense. Is it possible that kid that has been recruited by Moorhead since he was a SO in HS & who has been attending Moorhead camps since then would know a ton about this offense already?

How do we know that Schrader isn't ALREADY ahead of the other two QBs in terms of knowing this offense?

Something to think about.

The trick for Moorhead will be to keep the other two QBs from transferring before the 5th game next season while also being convicted in a starter rather than pulling a Mullen & losing to South Alabama because he couldn't decided between Fitz & Williams

That's our best case scenario. I just don't have a lot of confidence in him reading SEC defenses as a freshman but maybe Moorhead can get him through it.

Anyway that's why I compare him to John Bond. We went 3-8 in Emory's first year because our QB's didn't fit Emory's system. So he brings in Bond who I assume ran the wishbone in high school and boom.
01-01-2019, 08:30 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

So who's it going to be?

I think its clear Moorhead is doing everything possible to make sure its not KT. I also see no indication that it would be Mayden. Are we going to be going after a transfer until we get one? For some reason, I would still probably bet KT takes our first snap next year.

JoMo us not doing everything to keep him from it. Either KT can do it or he cant. There is no bias.
01-01-2019, 08:31 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Tua played last year. Lawrence this year. Surely he's as good as those guys

Tua didn't start a game not one. And FYI did you leave off sarcastrica cause he ain't tua not Lawrence, who was the number #1 qb in the country
01-01-2019, 08:36 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Before there is QB named I hope we are able to do a better job of keeping them upright and able to deliver a ball down field accurately. We did a terrible job of that this year against any team with a pulse. I know your going to say no way but the play of our line was sub par most of the year.

While correct, I think Fitz's sub par quickness, heavy feet, & lack of pocket awareness had a ton to do with that.

One thing I am excited about with KT & Schrader is that both are quicker with significantly lighter feet than Fitz. That should allow us to scramble more & manipulate the pocket
01-01-2019, 08:37 PM
chef dixon

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Originally Posted by Coach007

JoMo us not doing everything to keep him from it. Either KT can do it or he cant. There is no bias.

Fitz couldn't do it, but he still got plenty of shots. Look I know your stance on this situation, and you could be right, but its a bad look for Moorhead to be lining him up at RB and WR.
01-01-2019, 08:42 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

While correct, I think Fitz's sub par quickness, heavy feet, & lack of pocket awareness had a ton to do with that.

One thing I am excited about with KT & Schrader is that both are quicker with significantly lighter feet than Fitz. That should allow us to scramble more & manipulate the pocket

I think at the very least Key would make better reads and throw a more catchable ball. That's improvement right there.
01-01-2019, 08:42 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

While correct, I think Fitz's sub par quickness, heavy feet, & lack of pocket awareness had a ton to do with that.

One thing I am excited about with KT & Schrader is that both are quicker with significantly lighter feet than Fitz. That should allow us to scramble more & manipulate the pocket

So your saying that Fitz doesn't move well in the pocket right? If so it's hard to have quick feet with a 270 DE hanging on your ass or a 220 LB coming unblocked right up,the middle on you.
01-01-2019, 08:44 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

So your saying that Fitz doesn't move well in the pocket right? If so it's hard to have quick feet with a 270 DE hanging on your ass or a 220 LB coming unblocked right up,the middle on you.

He does not. Fitz is fast but not really quick. He runs well moving forward but not really laterally. Dak doesn't either.

Watch Brady, Romo, Rodgers, Luck, P Manning, etc if you want to see what I'm talking about
01-01-2019, 08:44 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think at the very least Key would make better reads and throw a more catchable ball. That's improvement right there.

I didn't see that at all in the opener. Like the head guy said right church wrong pue. He can spin it though.
01-01-2019, 08:44 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Tua didn't start a game not one. And FYI did you leave off sarcastrica cause he ain't tua not Lawrence, who was the number #1 qb in the country

It was a joke
01-01-2019, 08:55 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I didn't see that at all in the opener. Like the head guy said right church wrong pue. He can spin it though.

Remember his touchdown pass against Arkansas? He also threw some decent deep passes against Stephen F Austin. The thing I question about Key is his leadership. Maybe he'll step up.
01-01-2019, 08:57 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Fitz couldn't do it, but he still got plenty of shots. Look I know your stance on this situation, and you could be right, but its a bad look for Moorhead to be lining him up at RB and WR.

The funny thing is there were a few people on here during the season bitching that we didn't run 2 QB sets like Joe had at PSU. They said we needed that wrinkle and with Fitz and KT it was stupid that we weren't.
01-01-2019, 08:59 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

The funny thing is there were a few people on here during the season bitching that we didn't run 2 QB sets like Joe had at PSU. They said we needed that wrinkle and with Fitz and KT it was stupid that we weren't.

MSU fans are notorious for wanting to do the opposite of whatever the current coach wants to do.
01-01-2019, 08:59 PM
Hambone

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What if we go 2-10? I don't think we will... just wondering if that would be grounds in your mind

Absolutely, with no question. However we won?t go 2-10. 6-6 floor with a 9-3 ceiling next year
01-01-2019, 09:03 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

MSU fans are notorious for wanting to do the opposite of whatever the current coach wants to do.

And also for a "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" way of thinking.

Is Schrader a good student and capable of thinking fast?
01-01-2019, 09:05 PM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Remember his touchdown pass against Arkansas? He also threw some decent deep passes against Stephen F Austin. The thing I question about Key is his leadership. Maybe he'll step up.

Its not going to be Key per a current assistant coach I know. If it is, then 2 or 3 other options didn't pan out.
01-01-2019, 09:13 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

MSU fans are notorious for wanting to do the opposite of whatever the current coach wants to do.

Let's look at the 1990s:

"Sleepy sucks! Put in Plump!"
"Why are we playing Plump? Put in Todd Jordan!"
"Jordan sucks! Whatever happened to that Hudson kid? We want Taite!"
"Taite sucks, put in that Wyatt kid from Tupelo!"
"Wyatt sucks! Put in that freshman Madkin!"
"Madkin sucks, put Wyatt back in! Shit he sucks too go back to Madkin!"
01-01-2019, 09:22 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

And also for a "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" way of thinking.

Is Schrader a good student and capable of thinking fast?

He graduated high school early so I assume he's a good student.

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Its not going to be Key per a current assistant coach I know. If it is, then 2 or 3 other options didn't pan out.

That doesn't surprise me. I actually would have been more surprised if he did start.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Let's look at the 1990s:

"Sleepy sucks! Put in Plump!"
"Why are we playing Plump? Put in Todd Jordan!"
"Jordan sucks! Whatever happened to that Hudson kid? We want Taite!"
"Taite sucks, put in that Wyatt kid from Tupelo!"
"Wyatt sucks! Put in that freshman Madkin!"
"Madkin sucks, put Wyatt back in! Shit he sucks too go back to Madkin!"

Ah yes. The 1990's. Sherrill couldn't develop a QB to save his life. Plump really was the worst. In 1999 we all made it work out somehow because Wyatt could run the two minute offense pretty well.
01-01-2019, 09:24 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He graduated high school early so I assume he's a good student.

That doesn't surprise me. I actually would have been more surprised if he did start.

Ah yes. The 1990's. Sherrill couldn't develop a QB to save his life. Plump really was the worst. In 1999 we all made it work out somehow because Wyatt could run the two minute offense pretty well.

I know Greg. Great guy but as a qb not so much.

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