Maybe It's Just Me

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Originally Posted by basedog

And the committed players for the next few years love the baseball staff. I go with what I’ve been told not by here say BS posters.

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You're exactly right.

Our football woes shouldn't translate to the new Dude..


..but my God, what if they do...??

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I think his problem is more with Cohen than lemonis, but it seems your reading comprehension skills can't get through those maroon colored glasses. Truthfully we don't know about our baseball coach, I've got good reports so far from Dad of a kid on the team, but the truth is we don't know.

I can kinda get this guys point of view the football hire was trotted out there as an offensive guru and the results didn't come close to,that. There are a bunch of reasons for it but it's still a disappointing season. Now after what outwardly looked like fouled up coaching search and an AD running his suck about what the hire was going to be we again have to wait and see about the next new hire.

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This. It's nothing against Lemonis. I've not heard a whole lot other than the typical first year coach speak. My worries are Cohen's hiring abilities. Again, I have a little more faith in his baseball mind as of now, but his hiring track record isn't off to the best start. But as I stated in the OP, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and have to eat crow on this

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

The baseball teams gonna be just fine. Dang we lose a football game and now the baseball team is gonna suck? Just no

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It is sad we have so many insufferable fans.

Well that's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

It is sad we have so many insufferable fans.

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Amen, brother.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

It is sad we have so many insufferable fans.

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Agree, we have fans wanting to criticize Cohen's ability to hire a coach when the previous AD hired Rick freakin' Ray. It doesn't get any worse than that hire. If Lemonis can get Indiana to regionals 3 out of 4 years I think he will do pretty well at MSU.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Agree, we have fans wanting to criticize Cohen's ability to hire a coach when the previous AD hired Rick freakin' Ray. It doesn't get any worse than that hire. If Lemonis can get Indiana to regionals 3 out of 4 years I think he will do pretty well at MSU.

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Exactly and look at the staff Lemonis has assembled- Jake who is one of the best hitting coaches out there, Foxhall is an elite pitching coach, and also brought in one of the best catching coaches in the country. It's more than just Lemonis and Lemonis is a great teacher on top of that. It's an elite coaching staff.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Exactly and look at the staff Lemonis has assembled- Jake who is one of the best hitting coaches out there, Fox hall, elite pitching coach, and one of the best catching coaches in the country. It's more than just Lemonis and Lemonis is agree teacher on top of that. It's an elite coaching staff.

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This. I'm not saying we win the natty this year, but the staff is elite. Just relax.

The same people bitching about Lemonis would be the same ones begging for him if we would have the job to Hendo when we lost boneheaded games.

Cohen's management of baseball games drove people crazy and I suspect he's watched Lem coach baseball games before he hired him and agreed with his style... so there is a chance we still won't swing the bats like LSU or Oregon State and try to small ball our way to a single run in the 3rd inning of a mid-week game with 0 outs and a man on 2nd with our lead off hitter up, but if we win, we win. Winning cures everything and we should win a lot of games.

Jesus. That's baseball

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Our football woes shouldn't translate to the new Dude..


..but my God, what if they do...??

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So Instead of winning a National Title like some people think is possible, we go to another Super Regional like is closer to our norm? Should we fire Lemonis his first year if we don't make the National Championship series?

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Originally Posted by TNDawg35

The same people bitching about Lemonis would be the same ones begging for him if we would have the job to Hendo when we lost boneheaded games.

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Hendo did some dumb things last year, we just pulled some magic out of our ass. Anyone remember him not pulling pitchers against Oklahoma even though we gave up 9 runs and the lead. We then burned Self by pitching him in the 9th when we were losing by 10 runs.

Cohen made a decision based on his head and not his heart. Hendo was the steadying force that team needed at that moment but he wasn't the future of the program.

For gods sakes yes i remember. I just threw up in my mouth. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

For gods sakes yes i remember. I just threw up in my mouth. Thanks.

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Easier to stomach if you know MacNamee is going to hit a bomb to win against FSU.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Was talking with a few buddies after the game today and I'm starting to get very worried about baseball. I mean football is looking more and more like a Croomtastic hire and we were already underwhelmed with the baseball hire to begin with. I would hope Cohen can identify coaching talent better in a sport he played and coached for over 20 years, but judging solely on the football hire I do have a lot of concerns.

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And what did Cohen do bad to you and your buddies? News release - The sky is not falling in the MSU athletic department.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Cohen's management of baseball games drove people crazy and I suspect he's watched Lem coach baseball games before he hired him and agreed with his style... so there is a chance we still won't swing the bats like LSU or Oregon State and try to small ball our way to a single run in the 3rd inning of a mid-week game with 0 outs and a man on 2nd with our lead off hitter up, but if we win, we win. Winning cures everything and we should win a lot of games.

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Offensive baseball is more about what your players can do with the bat. If you have guys that can hit a lot of bombs you're going to be more of an Earl Weaver type team. If you have guys that can run and hit for average your going to be more of a small ball team. I'm sure Lemonis is that way too. I don't think we will see a ton of small ball honestly because we have some guys like Westburg, MacNamee, and even Rowdey that can mash a little bit and some guys like Tanner Allen who can hit even though he isn't a guy that will hit a ton of home runs you're not going to ask him to bunt a lot because there's a good chance he gets a hit- including a double or triple- even though I don't think he will hit a ton of home runs. Mangum will bunt some because he can run and he can beat out those bunts for hits sometimes.

Plus when Cohen was here it was a big time dead ball era in college baseball and Cohen built us for that. After that was over he brought in Nate Lowe, Rooker, Gavin Collins, Kruger, and Reid Humphreys and we were more of a balanced team with some power and we won the SEC with that.