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11-05-2018, 10:43 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by msu15

How is it hard to make sense when he has a superior RB ahead of him?

Different skill set and Aeris is a true 3 down back. They are both avg 6.62 and 6.65 yards per carry this season. Not a big drop off in that area. Hill has bigger play potential but Aeris is a better inside runner and can help in more ways. At this point in their career Hill is not superior and Aeris and Fitz work better together.
11-05-2018, 10:45 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Different skill set and Aeris is a true 3 down back. They are both avg 6.62 and 6.65 yards per carry this season. Not a big drop off in that area. Hill has bigger play potential but Aeris is a better inside runner and can help in more ways. At this point in their career Hill is not superior and Aeris and Fitz work better together.

Nail head meet hammer **
11-05-2018, 10:47 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msu15

How is it hard to make sense when he has a superior RB ahead of him?

While I have no problem with Hill being the starter and Aries the #2, yards per carry 6.6 for Hill vs 6.7 for Aries. Rushing TDs 3 for Hill, 2 for Aries. Rec. TDs 3 for Hill vs 1 for Aries. Per Rec. avg Hill 8.8 vs Aries 12.9. So I don't see where Hill is that much better, performance wise, than Aries. And Aries is just over half the touches. I think we all see Hill's potential, but he's not putting up better numbers.
11-05-2018, 10:54 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

While I have no problem with Hill being the starter and Aries the #2, yards per carry 6.6 for Hill vs 6.7 for Aries. Rushing TDs 3 for Hill, 2 for Aries. Rec. TDs 3 for Hill vs 1 for Aries. Per Rec. avg Hill 8.8 vs Aries 12.9. So I don't see where Hill is that much better, performance wise, than Aries. And Aries is just over half the touches. I think we all see Hill's potential, but he's not putting up better numbers.

And that's with the inflation due to his huge KSU game. I'm pretty sure most of Aeris' touches have come against SEC foes. Right now Hill isn't an NFL back IMO. Can he develop into one? Maybe. He has a lot of work to do tho.
11-05-2018, 10:56 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

And that's with the inflation due to his huge KSU game. I'm pretty sure most of Aeris' touches have come against SEC foes. Right now Hill isn't an NFL back IMO. Can he develop into one? Maybe. He has a lot of work to do tho.

No idea if he'll be drafted or not, but no nfl team will trust him picking up LBs protecting the qb right now
11-05-2018, 10:59 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

No idea if he'll be drafted or not, but no nfl team will trust him picking up LBs protecting the qb right now

No doubt about that. Won't make NFL as RB if you can't/won't block.

ETA: I really think that if Joe starts Kylin against Bama ... that will be a very bad move IMO.
11-05-2018, 11:04 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

No doubt about that. Won't make NFL as RB if you can't/won't block.

ETA: I really think that if Joe starts Kylin against Bama ... that will be a very bad move IMO.

It's gonna happen. I'd just tell Kylin to go to the flat on obvious passing situations as a hot read. He can't pick up bama LBs.
11-05-2018, 11:07 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

It's gonna happen. I'd just tell Kylin to go to the flat on obvious passing situations as a hot read. He can't pick up bama LBs.

I know ... Fitz gotta get rid of it quick. Shots down the field won't have time to develop ... and Joe likes shots down the field. Hope Fitz comes out alive this week.
11-05-2018, 11:10 AM
Cooterpoot

Jo is so caught up in this idea of "explosive plays" that he hasn't figured out the SEC defenses eat that crap up. You're effectively playing for a couple a game in the SEC unless you've got dynamic WRs and a good QB ie. MO and AL. Long routes and runs off the edge are hard to block.
11-05-2018, 11:14 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Jo is so caught up in this idea of "explosive plays" that he hasn't figured out the SEC defenses eat that crap up. You're effectively playing for a couple a game in the SEC unless you've got dynamic WRs and a good QB ie. MO and AL. Long routes and runs off the edge are hard to block.

Most years the only way you can beat Bama is with a load of explosive plays. But I'm not sure we have the personnel and I also believe we can run on this Bama D. We do have to be able to pass it some too ... but Joe do like to air it out a good bit. We'll see how that turns out.
11-05-2018, 11:19 AM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

I'm sure he's a good guy, but whether it is on the field or off, he's clearly not getting his shit handled. Because this is the second time that Moorhead has suspended him, and he's not doing it for no reason.

You're right. But my response was to the guy sayin it was possible for aeris to have been a problem child all along. That's simply not the case.

I haven't heard this straight from the horses mouth but based on what I have been told I'm going to put 2 & 2 together and I'll choose to believe that aeris saw from the beginning what we all saw after the Kentucky and Florida games. Because of this he had trouble buying in since he had way more SEC experience than the offensive staff for the most part. I'm sure losing carries based on this made things even worse.
11-05-2018, 11:29 AM
Really Clark?

Nm
11-05-2018, 12:14 PM
drunkernhelldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

How do you know Aeris was never a problem? How do you know Mullen didn't play favorites and let him get away with stuff?

Don't get lost on playing favorites. All humans have favorites.. Even your Mom, and mine.
11-06-2018, 06:44 PM
gravedigger

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Jo is so caught up in this idea of "explosive plays" that he hasn't figured out the SEC defenses eat that crap up. You're effectively playing for a couple a game in the SEC unless you've got dynamic WRs and a good QB ie. MO and AL. Long routes and runs off the edge are hard to block.

He?s not any more
11-06-2018, 09:54 PM
MaroonFlounder

Aeris should start Saturday and play until Joe figures out Bama's pressure schemes.
11-06-2018, 10:01 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

You're right. But my response was to the guy sayin it was possible for aeris to have been a problem child all along. That's simply not the case.

I haven't heard this straight from the horses mouth but based on what I have been told I'm going to put 2 & 2 together and I'll choose to believe that aeris saw from the beginning what we all saw after the Kentucky and Florida games. Because of this he had trouble buying in since he had way more SEC experience than the offensive staff for the most part. I'm sure losing carries based on this made things even worse.

Why you mind sharing more about this? I would really like to know what is going on in Joes mind right now.
11-06-2018, 10:22 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

No doubt about that. Won't make NFL as RB if you can't/won't block.

ETA: I really think that if Joe starts Kylin against Bama ... that will be a very bad move IMO.

If Hill continues to struggle in pass protection. and starts this weekend, those that wanna see KT will likely get their wish...
11-07-2018, 12:38 AM
Todd4State

Don't discount Hill's receiving ability. He's our second leading receiver on the team, is tied for the team lead for receiving TD's and is averaging 40 more all-purpose yards per game than Aeris. All the while averaging the same YPC essentially as a running back.
11-07-2018, 04:12 AM
BhamDawg205

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Don't discount Hill's receiving ability. He's our second leading receiver on the team, is tied for the team lead for receiving TD's and is averaging 40 more all-purpose yards per game than Aeris. All the while averaging the same YPC essentially as a running back.

Hill has great hands that's been seen. Those stats are good. But giving those yards back by missing pass rusher every game is the issue. Hill is explosive, Aries is consistent.
11-07-2018, 04:54 AM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Don't discount Hill's receiving ability. He's our second leading receiver on the team, is tied for the team lead for receiving TD's and is averaging 40 more all-purpose yards per game than Aeris. All the while averaging the same YPC essentially as a running back.

So start Hill in the slot and AW in the backfield, problem solved.

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