After sleeping on it...

You guys realize on that 4th and 3 Fitz wasn’t supposed to sit there like a statue? He was supposed to roll to his left to follow the protection where he would have had the RPO to run or pass for the first down. He was never supposed to sit back and not feel the pressure from the released LB on the right side. Moorhead even said as such as one of the halftime adjustments that we were going to roll him out where he was more comfortable. Him just standing in the pocket like that after halftime is all him. Moorhead didn’t call that play because he completely sucks as a drop back passer. He literally was going against his own protection by standing there.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

On the 4th and 3 at midfield last night RT Reese had a DE on his outside shoulder and instead double teamed the DT... the DE came in and tackled Fitz 5 yards behind line of scrimmage...

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Fitz was supposed to roll out to follow his protection. He was never supposed to stand there.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I tried to tell yall. Fitz sucks

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Fitz is killing our perception of Moorhead because Moorhead literally does not know what to do with the kid and doesn’t trust him. Imo for everyone’s sake he just needs to start KT and just run with him this year. Play for the future and we still will go 7-5/8-4. It’s not what we all wanted but it’s our realty now.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Fitz is killing our perception of Moorhead because Moorhead literally does not know what to do with the kid and doesn’t trust him. Imo for everyone’s sake he just needs to start KT and just run with him this year. Play for the future and we still will go 7-5/8-4. It’s not what we all wanted but it’s our realty now.

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Sorry but the piss poor game plans, play calling and lack of adjustments in 3 of 4 SEC games is tainting the perception of Moorehead a lot more than Fitz. Especially very poor adjustments after the half when we were still very much in those games

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

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Count me as a member of this suggestion. I don't like the look I see on NF's face on the sidelines after his amazing interceptions. I don't look for negative reasons to get discouraged. If hurting your team has trained you to handle these drive/winning preventers turnovers then its time to cut bait and move to a new spot and see if they are biting under another stump.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Sorry but the piss poor game plans, play calling and lack of adjustments in 3 of 4 SEC games is tainting the perception of Moorehead a lot more than Fitz. Especially very poor adjustments after the half when we were still very much in those games

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You guys are so fixated on Moorhead and never want to blame Fitz. Fitz was a Mullen special a diamond in the rough who he really didn’t develop that well. Ironically all the QBs who Mullen chased away for this prize could have run Moorhead’s system. Eli could throw an incredible deep ball. Hell, even the kid who went to Chattanooga was a better fit for this system. Nope, those guys left and Moorhead was left with a kid who never ran his system and couldn’t even practice until August meaning he didn’t even go through spring practice which was huge. Instead Moorhead was left with a QB whose offers were us and MTSU and was a 2*. I think starting and playing KT is the answer to our offensive woes and this 4 INT performance by Fitz is the perfect catalyst to bench him for KT.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

You guys are so fixated on Moorhead and never want to blame Fitz. Fitz was a Mullen special a diamond in the rough who he really didn’t develop that well. Ironically all the QBs who Mullen chased away for this prize could have run Moorhead’s system. Eli could throw an incredible deep ball. Hell, even the kid who went to Chattanooga was a better fit for this system. Nope, those guys left and Moorhead was left with a kid who never ran his system and couldn’t even practice until August meaning he didn’t even go through spring practice which was huge. Instead Moorhead was left with a QB whose offers were us and MTSU and was a 2*. I think starting and playing KT is the answer to our offensive woes and this 4 INT performance by Fitz is the perfect catalyst to bench him for KT.

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I’m not blind to what Fitz is or can do. But if you can’t see the significant regression he has made passing or acknowledge that the coach you are defending still hasn’t put KT in, then you are being blinded by not looking at Moorehead as a large issue as well.

Fitz was a better passer two years ago than he is now. Think about that.

Yes he had Fred Ross. But Fitz has regressed big time. And that's on the staff

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

You guys are so fixated on Moorhead and never want to blame Fitz. Fitz was a Mullen special a diamond in the rough who he really didn’t develop that well. Ironically all the QBs who Mullen chased away for this prize could have run Moorhead’s system. Eli could throw an incredible deep ball. Hell, even the kid who went to Chattanooga was a better fit for this system. Nope, those guys left and Moorhead was left with a kid who never ran his system and couldn’t even practice until August meaning he didn’t even go through spring practice which was huge. Instead Moorhead was left with a QB whose offers were us and MTSU and was a 2*. I think starting and playing KT is the answer to our offensive woes and this 4 INT performance by Fitz is the perfect catalyst to bench him for KT.

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Key was a 4* recruit that broke passing and running records at his high school. He won a state championship too. He had more experience as a high school QB than Fitz by far. He went through spring as the first string QB while Fitz was healing. He went through fall camp getting significant reps as well. He couldn't beat out Fitz. If there's one QB Joe could come in and mold into his system immediately it was Key. He didn't have 4 yrs of Mullen ball rolling around in his head.

17 this shit. I'm glad I didn't watch a 17ing snap. Internet told me all I needed to know. 4 ints, 200 yds rushing with no touchdowns. Deleted with no time wasted.

X file reruns rock

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Burrow is asked as a QB to manage the offense, not turn the ball over and not do too much. Emsfinger is not trying to turn him into Joe Montana.

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Some laughed at or criticized O when he hired Emsfinger, as OC, but so far it looks like it is working out.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

Some laughed at or criticized O when he hired Emsfinger, as OC, but so far it looks like it is working out.

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I think this fits under "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

I finally went to bed before the game was over, because I got sick of seeing Fitz running up the gut. We have 2 great running backs actually 3 or 4 and we don't use them. What gives?

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Well, we practically benched a 1000 yard RB and neither he nor Hill touch the ball much. Glad we have a top flight RB committed for next year with only 4 on the roster and the former A-Train using up his eligibility ............ Wait a minute, nevermind.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

You guys are so fixated on Moorhead and never want to blame Fitz. Fitz was a Mullen special a diamond in the rough who he really didn’t develop that well. Ironically all the QBs who Mullen chased away for this prize could have run Moorhead’s system. Eli could throw an incredible deep ball. Hell, even the kid who went to Chattanooga was a better fit for this system. Nope, those guys left and Moorhead was left with a kid who never ran his system and couldn’t even practice until August meaning he didn’t even go through spring practice which was huge. Instead Moorhead was left with a QB whose offers were us and MTSU and was a 2*. I think starting and playing KT is the answer to our offensive woes and this 4 INT performance by Fitz is the perfect catalyst to bench him for KT.

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Then ****ing replace him. If Fitz doesn’t fit your scheme then replace him. Day 1. Replace him. KT HAS to be better at passing both in game and in practice. Fitz is a leader so JoMo couldn’t do that, you say?? Bullshit. KT leads this team to a couple wins and the team is on board. Throw and hit WR’s and the wr’s are on board. Hand the ball off instead of keeping every single option...the rb’s are on board.

Easy fix when you think about it

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Then ****ing replace him. If Fitz doesn’t fit your scheme then replace him. Day 1. Replace him. KT HAS to be better at passing both in game and in practice. Fitz is a leader so JoMo couldn’t do that, you say?? Bullshit. KT leads this team to a couple wins and the team is on board. Throw and hit WR’s and the wr’s are on board. Hand the ball off instead of keeping every single option...the rb’s are on board.

Easy fix when you think about it

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This, Great post.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Key was a 4* recruit that broke passing and running records at his high school. He won a state championship too. He had more experience as a high school QB than Fitz by far. He went through spring as the first string QB while Fitz was healing. He went through fall camp getting significant reps as well. He couldn't beat out Fitz. If there's one QB Joe could come in and mold into his system immediately it was Key. He didn't have 4 yrs of Mullen ball rolling around in his head.

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I’m not in JoMo’s head but I would have let KT finish the game once Fitz got knocked out due to that targeting penalty and I think he would have led us to a score. JoMo has to start KT this weekend imo. Fitz is done.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Sorry but the piss poor game plans, play calling and lack of adjustments in 3 of 4 SEC games is tainting the perception of Moorehead a lot more than Fitz. Especially very poor adjustments after the half when we were still very much in those games

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What the hell are you supposed to do with a QB that can't read defenses and keeps throwing the ball to the other team? I mean, putting the running back in motion and handing off to them is only going to band aid so much. I highly suspect that a big reason why the running backs aren't getting the ball is because Nick is probably keeping it some when he should hand it off. Whether that's because Nick can't read defenses or is being selfish or a combination of the two- I don't know.

And yes, I do think that putting in KT could have helped and may or may not be the answer. But I don't think it's that totally cut and dried either because you're talking about replacing a guy that is the SEC's all time rushing leader who was also considered a Heisman darkhorse and had we benched him earlier and Nick gotten the record that could have looked really bad for us.


But from what I am seeing in the stands:


1. We can't pass the ball.

2. We CAN run the ball. We lead the SEC in rushing and are a respectable sixth in SEC only games. So, that's clearly working despite coaching, Nick, lack of adjustments, and etc.


3. The o-line looks OK. Stats may or may not prove me wrong but other than UK and maybe UF they have been fine or at least not noticeably bad. We're OK at allowing sacks- 7th in the SEC and tied for fewest TFL's allowed. While at the same time leading the SEC in rushing without a QB that can throw the ball. Meaning they're blocking 8 on 5 a lot of the time and appear to be doing OK with it.


4. Defense is outstanding. Shoop looks like a good hire and maybe an upgrade over Grantham.


5. Special teams is OK outside of maybe punting.


6. Moorhead has significantly adjusted his play calling to be more run heavy since the Florida game like everyone wanted. I'm not sure what else he can really do outside of running more plays with the RB in motion to make people happy there. The penalties have gotten cleaned up for the most part since UK.


So in conclusion just about everything that Joe is doing right now is going at an acceptable rate outside of the passing game. Nick is KILLING us. And maybe Moorhead's career at MSU with it. He has talent but he doesn't have "it"- like Dak. Not everyone has "it" but Nick is also devoid of it.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

I’m not in JoMo’s head but I would have let KT finish the game once Fitz got knocked out due to that targeting penalty and I think he would have led us to a score. JoMo has to start KT this weekend imo. Fitz is done.

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I don't really know what to do. Nick has done really well against A&M in the past and we have La Tech, Arkansas, and Ole Miss coming up. Meaning his passing will probably get better and get closer to it's "norm" of around 55% or probably a little lower if we play him because he missed the FCS gam which would have padded his passing stats. We're not beating Alabama anyway.

I think I would probably start Nick against A&M and if he looks like he has been I put Key in at that point.

I do agree that I would have put Key in against LSU and would have seen what would have happened.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think I would probably start Nick against A&M and if he looks like he has been I put Key in at that point.

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No way...Joe better decide today to start Key and get him all of the first team snaps this week....Fitz earnd his spot on the bench