No has zero inside info. He’s a hack trying to keep shit stirred. Stop helping him.
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No has zero inside info. He’s a hack trying to keep shit stirred. Stop helping him.
If it is true I wish he could have figured it out before seeing 8 quarters of it.
None of the adjustment would have been a big deal if we hadn't had such high expectations for this year. Mullen just screwed us over by bailing on what would have likely been his best overall MSU team. And on top of that, Mullen never groomed anyone in his country club that could have taken over his program seamlessly upon him leaving. They are all just his little minions and that's all they ever will be. Mullen probably would have gone 10-2 with this team, possibly even 11-1 and still would have had all kind of coaching opportunities afterward if he had wanted. Everyone knows we won't be as good personnel wise next year so it actually would have been a much more favorable year to change coaches. So we just have to deal with coaching transition costing at least 2 games this year and then see if JoMo can get players in here that can effectively run more of his RPO stuff eventually. Still believe at least some of the RPO stuff can work in this league but you have to have competent players in the passing game (and I'm talking a QB that can read coverage, WRs that can get open and catch, and a pass blocking OL) that we don't really currently have.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Fitz didn't practice in the spring. I guess he looked good enough in fall practice for Coach Moorhead to go ahead with his system into the start of the season. The quarterback isn't getting hit in practice so it doesn't show you everything. Fitz didn't play the first game. Offense didn't look great against KSU game but Fitz's first game. Why would he think it won't be successful at that point. Everything clicked against ULL but its ULL so you don't really know anything but why would you think it wouldn't work in the SEC at this point. We don't play well against Kentucky but its in a monsoon so Coach Moorhead decides to stick with what has made him successful up to this point in his career. Sucked against Florida so coach took what he had seen and made some changes. I know its not ideal but at least our head coach made some changes and we beat a good team. The head coach is responsible for everything so obviously the losses are on him but at least he swallowed his pride a little and made some changes.
If Kentucky was their normal self this year we would have beaten them, not changed the offense, and been beaten by Florida and Auburn and Coach Moorhead would make changes for the LSU game. Not much to do but move forward and see what happens.
*Fitz missed all the pre-season practice and the first game, of a completely new system.
*Complete overhaul of the Staff
*Totally different scheme
*Fl and Ky have really good teams.
Is it really a mystery?
Did you actually look at Sabans first two years?
Not buying. He's played Ohio State who has just as much speed as UK or Florida, plus he sees it every day in practice.
I think the success in the first 3 games gave him a false understanding of what we could do well against legit competition. I also think the penalties against UK made him think "ok, we fix the penalties and we will be fine." Which was clearly wrong but explains why major adjustments were made after Florida when the penalties were cleaned up. Not excusing it, he should have known already, but it makes more sense to me than "he underestimated SEC speed". That just doesn't jive.
I think he thought he could implement his system because he had a fifth year senior QB and a lot of returning vets and then realized their limits after two games.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Saban
Meyer
Miles
Freeze
Not buying that you have to be an SEC coach to make it in the SEC.
Our conference's worst team went to South Bend and barely lost to the Fighting Irish (and should have won). Notre Dame is being pushed by the national media as a playoff team. BAMA will beat them by at least 4-5 TDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Bo has solid sources. I’m not sure why so many of you are so quick to say he doesn’t. Many of his contacts are connected to some of us as well. I only say that to support that many of his sources are legit.
Yeah I'm not sure why people don't get this. The offenses' job is to dissect and be successful against the other team's defense. Our defense isn't going to sit there and learn the schemes of the opposing team. They are dissecting the other team's offense and learning their tendencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Do people really think we just line up against our defense and just play? No wonder our board football IQ is so damn low.
Freeze had coached in the SEC before and lost a good bit his first year.Quote:
Originally Posted by PassInterference
Agree on Miles, but he played the perfect style for the SEC.
My guess is that power guys have an easier adjustment
MSU Friends don't let their MSU Friends listen to Bo. It's not a Good Lifestyle.
1. I dont agree that he was caught off guard by anything. Bo is just making good conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
2. Moorhead will target the kids he needs for his system. How long will it take for them to be truly effective? Not sure.
3. Moorhead didnt stubbornly lose two games. He expected Division 1 athletes to have the wherewithal to pickup his offense more effectively. We all did. Maybe that was his miscalculation. Fitz being out due to injury in the spring and the violation of team rules aggravated the situation.
4. I know we all want to find the answer to the riddle of why our expectations were not realized. The answer is that things take time. UK is a pretty good defense. UF has a very good Defensive coordinator and they are no slouch.
The SEC is superior to other conferences in that teams like MSU, Mizzou and UK that are/were notoriously in the lower half are not cakewalks for the perennial contenders in the conference. Our conference 'out athletes' others. But Joe is putting in a system that requires a higher level of awareness from his offensive players. Most certainly the QB, WR and the OL.
When the offense does start clicking in the passing game we as fans are immediately going to attribute it to better players. That wont necessarily be so. We have great players. But just as anyone who has started a new job knows, it takes a while to get a rhythm and used to the routines. It can seem overwhelming at times.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I call BS on this ...because James Franklin warned him explicitly...and Shoop should have also warned him....and he can see there is a reason 1/3 of the the defensive players in the NFL went to SEC schools. The reason he was caught off guard is because Fitzgerald made all the throws in the Louisiana game, he felt he could handle it.
^^^ This all day -- rep given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Just because some one tells me it's cold outside doesn't mean that I understand how cold it actually is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezsoil
And just because we desire a single person to blame for something, doesnt mean that other circumstances didnt contribute, or how much.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Fact is, in a process or system, it's almost never one thing or one person that is the cause for success or failure. It's a series of events and circumstances. But that usually doesnt work for people who need a simple reason to direct their anger toward.
Great Post! You nailed it!Quote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
Who knows that? I certainly don't know that. You certainly don't know that. Our secondary has been solid. They may wind up getting picked on, but you have zero basis for this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg