Bartoo says bet K State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

It's just about understanding the perspective from which he speaks. He's purely objective. Problem is, sports aren't objective. However, by understanding how he formulated his opinion, it gives you a foundation from which to work off of to form yours.

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This explains quite a bit about you. You allow others to define the foundation of your thoughts, as opposed to relying on what you see for yourself. It also explains why you've consistently gone off the rails in your posts since C34 left the board. He provided you the perspective and you turned his thoughts and twisted the verbiage to make it sound original.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Actually he's right quite often. He was 5-2 against spread last week. Lost big on UWV/Tenn game. If you go with recruiting rankings as your primary way to pick games, you probably gonna be right a good bit of the time.

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You are probably right. I honestly don't follow him at all. I just know there's more than a few big games he said were absolute locks one way and they went completely the other way. He also said that using his matrix Don leaving meant we'd only win 7 games this year which is a load of crap. He just panders to the big teams and skews his matrix to fit their team having success. Which is understandable, I mean the guy is running a business and those bigger fan bases will buy whatever he's selling if it's positive for their team. Pretty sure he's been on the Texas is back bandwagon for years now.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

So basically he sucks his own cock when he gets something right about as much as Barrett Sally does.
Which isn?t very often

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But I much prefer him to the Sally types because he doesn't see helmets & isn't bought off other schools.

At least what he is saying is what his formula indicates.

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

This explains quite a bit about you. You allow others to define the foundation of your thoughts, as opposed to relying on what you see for yourself. It also explains why you've consistently gone off the rails in your posts since C34 left the board. He provided you the perspective and you turned his thoughts and twisted the verbiage to make it sound original.

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You nailed it. Education is a bad thing because what you just did was argue against education

My formula says we're going to kick the shit out of KSU as long as we don't turn the ball over all day.

Some of these predictions are done to gin up controversy and generate excitement. They mean nothing.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

My formula says we're going to kick the shit out of KSU as long as we don't turn the ball over all day.

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I agree completely.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

Some of these predictions are done to gin up controversy and generate excitement. They mean nothing.

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No they aren't. Bartoo's predictions are based on gambling

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

You are probably right. I honestly don't follow him at all. I just know there's more than a few big games he said were absolute locks one way and they went completely the other way. He also said that using his matrix Don leaving meant we'd only win 7 games this year which is a load of crap. He just panders to the big teams and skews his matrix to fit their team having success. Which is understandable, I mean the guy is running a business and those bigger fan bases will buy whatever he's selling if it's positive for their team. Pretty sure he's been on the Texas is back bandwagon for years now.

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Seems like he may have said our floor is 7 games maybe. I think it is 8 myself. Our 3 SECW and 1 OOC away games are gonna be tough. Then FL, AU, and TAM aren't gonna be walks in the park I don't think. Hard to say just yet though. Will have better feel over next few games.

ETA: Personally, I think we should mop the floor with KState. Will we? is the question.

He was betting the spread not the win.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

My formula says we're going to kick the shit out of KSU as long as we don't turn the ball over all day.

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K State is going to stack the box and force Nick to throw. Last year that was a good game plan but this year with Mitchell, Guidry and Austin Williams it might not be the smartest move.

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

He was betting the spread not the win.

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Yes .. he was. Bo Bounds and crew have a weekly with Bartoo and they all pick some big (or hyped) games against the spread.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

My formula says we're going to kick the shit out of KSU as long as we don't turn the ball over all day.

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We must have the same computer.

To me it seems like a really weird line. I would've thought we would've been at least 14 point favorites in this game. When vegas throws out lines way off what they so obviously should be, I get scared. I feel they know something I'm not seeing. My gut instinct is to bet the house on MSU, but something just seems off. I'm not betting us this week.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Dave Bartoo
@CFBMatrix
So its a wrap

Tier I Contenders - Bama Auburn tOSU Clemson
Tier II - USC UGA FSU LSU ND Texas PSU
Tier III - (maybe get to NC but not win) OU Vols UCLA UF

11:58 PM - Jul 16, 2018

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It's like he just wanted to include all the biggest national fanbases for clicks or something. Can't believe he left off Michigan.

I dont find it that outrageous. I think KSU covers the spread. I think we win by 3-7 points. That is a tough place to play, and Snyder is a good coach.

I dont expect a blowout at all. This is a tricky game. If we go in there and blow them out, I'll be all aboard the 11-1 or 12-0 train.

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

To me it seems like a really weird line. I would've thought we would've been at least 14 point favorites in this game. When vegas throws out lines way off what they so obviously should be, I get scared. I feel they know something I'm not seeing. My gut instinct is to bet the house on MSU, but something just seems off. I'm not betting us this week.

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I get that instinct, but it's simply not true.

Vegas had Texas Tech -2 vs Ole Miss & everyone thought Ole Miss was much better. You know what? Everyone was right.

I think Vegas gets too much credit.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

I dont find it that outrageous. I think KSU covers the spread. I think we win by 3-7 points. That is a tough place to play, and Snyder is a good coach.

I dont expect a blowout at all. This is a tricky game. If we go in there and blow them out, I'll be all aboard the 11-1 or 12-0 train.

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I view this as like when we play one of those MAC teams.

Miami of Ohio in the St Pete Bowl, Bowling Green, etc.

That's what I think we will be facing, which is somewhat scary if you don't come ready

tough place to play--wow. We play LSU-Auburn-Bama-etc. just how tough can it be? I'll bet on this game. I'll bet our defense clamps down on the Wildcat's nuts. I'll bet Fitz has a great game. K-State doesn't even hav e 4 star playing. Jimmys and Joes is what it is about. Jo-Mo will have us ready.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I view this as like when we play one of those MAC teams.

Miami of Ohio in the St Pete Bowl, Bowling Green, etc.

That's what I think we will be facing, which is somewhat scary if you don't come ready

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Go look at their home record under Snyder. Very few blowouts. Lots of wins, some big upsets, and a lot of close losses to highly ranked teams.

The only blowouts have come at the hands of teams with really low numbers next to their name.

Sometimes, week 1 results can sway opinions a little too much. You always take week 1 with a grain of salt.