How many season does Jimbo have to win the SEC before they let him go?

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08-30-2018, 10:09 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I believe this.

I think he will win enough to not want everyone calling for his head especially if you have to pay him $30-40 Mil just to go away. I don't see them firing him without cause for at least 6-7 years. If he is winning 8 and they can find a loophole then he could be gone after 3 or 4 years but that is a lot of guaranteed money.
08-30-2018, 10:17 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

Why fire him? As long as he wins 7-9 games per year, they should give him some serious time to build, they've got to pay him anyway. In comparison, it took Mullen, what, 5-6 years to get us to #1, and 9-10 years for the roster we have this year. It's not gonna happen overnight as some Aggie fans believe, although he won a NC at FSU in just 3 years, he could def build something there if given time.

They have stupid money and they want to win really bad.
08-30-2018, 10:44 AM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Herman and jimbo will win... saban probably prevents jimbo from making playoffs, but not Texas. Both programs are about to take a big step forward

Herman might get Texas back to feasting on the Big 12 - but that won't guarantee them a Natty.

I think Jimbo is done, and the SEC schedule will eat him alive. FSU had to handle 2-3 big games - Clemson, UF, and Miami. A&M has the SEC West and USCe every year. Add Clemson this year, Colorado in '20 & '21, Miami & UF in '22; and Miami and Tennessee in '23 - that is not a recipe for multiple 10 win seasons.
08-30-2018, 10:49 AM
Cooterpoot

Jimbo isn't a great coach. Sorry, he's not. He had 3 good years in 8 at FSU and FSU is a better program than A&M.
08-30-2018, 10:56 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Jimbo isn't a great coach. Sorry, he's not. He had 3 good years in 8 at FSU and FSU is a better program than A&M.

I see 5 straight bcs/playoff/NY6 bowls. For all active college coaches that have coached at least 2 seasons at a P5 school, only chip kelly and urban Meyer have a higher winning %
08-30-2018, 10:57 AM
99jc

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Jimbo isn't a great coach. Sorry, he's not. He had 3 good years in 8 at FSU and FSU is a better program than A&M.

and he is a slimy piece of crap.
08-30-2018, 11:10 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by 99jc

and he is a slimy piece of crap.

100% agree on that.

I wonder in the NCAA visits college station during his tenure? He's got to get defensive talent outside of Texas. Texas HS defenses are too damn soft. And he's got to get 4 and 5 star defensive talent to win the West.
08-30-2018, 11:24 AM
msstate7

Putting your personal feelings of jimbo aside, he's been a good coach. We can't tout howland as awesome, and at the same time say jimbo is bad. I remember OM fans saying howland was washed up and couldn't recruit at state... this is sorta the same things I'm reading here about jimbo. Jimbo has hit the ground rolling recruiting wise. Jimbo has a natty, and beat the sec champs to get it. Next thing will be well he had Winston. First off, he recruited and signed Winston. 2nd, Winston's qb rating in 3 seasons in the nfl is 87.2. Winston isn't some GOAT qb or something.
08-30-2018, 11:48 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Herman might get Texas back to feasting on the Big 12 - but that won't guarantee them a Natty.

I think Jimbo is done, and the SEC schedule will eat him alive. FSU had to handle 2-3 big games - Clemson, UF, and Miami. A&M has the SEC West and USCe every year. Add Clemson this year, Colorado in '20 & '21, Miami & UF in '22; and Miami and Tennessee in '23 - that is not a recipe for multiple 10 win seasons.

Damn. Hadn't realized how ridiculous A&M's scheduling is. Bama, Clemson, Auburn, MSU, USCe, and LSU. They're most likely going to play 2 of the top 4 teams, then I think either Auburn or MSU will be top 10, and USCe or LSU will probably be top 25 (possibly both). That's brutal.

And who knows what teams will look like in 2022, but Miami, UF, and USCe to go along with the SECW schedule could be brutal too.
08-30-2018, 12:05 PM
Pollodawg

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

A&M had the first Million Dollar Coach in College Football history. They have been paying out the ass for ever. They have a lot of money with out TV money. If they want Jimbo gone he will be gone.

Neat little piece of trivia: Who was that head coach?
08-30-2018, 12:07 PM
Pollodawg

I have sick feeling they?re about to get massively better. Not that I hate AM. They?re weird, no doubt. But Tejas, as a whole, has way to high an opinion of itself, so it?s always fun to needle them about something.
08-30-2018, 12:20 PM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Pollodawg

Neat little piece of trivia: Who was that head coach?

A&M paid JWS 1 million to leave Pitt.
08-30-2018, 12:45 PM
TUSK

I think one thing that will change under Fisher is A&M's abysmal SEC Home Record... they have been shockingly bad at home...

Shockingly bad, I say.

Edit to add data over last 4 years:
2017 1-3
2016 1-2
2015 2-2
2014 0-3

Total 4-10, 0.286
08-30-2018, 01:00 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Jimbo is gone after 5 years of 8-4ish records.

^^^This^^^
08-30-2018, 01:03 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I think one thing that will change under Fisher is A&M's abysmal SEC Home Record... they have been shockingly bad at home...

Shockingly bad, I say.

Edit to add data over last 4 years:
2017 1-3
2016 1-2
2015 2-2
2014 0-3

Total 4-10, 0.286

Losing at home in front of the fans pretty much doubles the intensity. People don't want to drive in and tailgate all day to see their team lose consistently.
08-30-2018, 01:05 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

^^^This^^^

Has anyone paid anywhere close to a $35 Million dollar buyout for a coach? I realize A&M has money but you don't get a lot of money by being stupid with it.
08-30-2018, 02:06 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Damn. Hadn't realized how ridiculous A&M's scheduling is. Bama, Clemson, Auburn, MSU, USCe, and LSU. They're most likely going to play 2 of the top 4 teams, then I think either Auburn or MSU will be top 10, and USCe or LSU will probably be top 25 (possibly both). That's brutal.

And who knows what teams will look like in 2022, but Miami, UF, and USCe to go along with the SECW schedule could be brutal too.

It is a gauntlet. Yes, Jimbo coached at LSU, but the SECW then and now is not the same. He is looking at anywhere between 4-8 Top 25 teams a season - before any conference title games or bowls. FSU averaged 2.6 games vs. Top 25 in Jimbo's 8 seasons. At LSU he saw 3.7 Top 25 a season. A&M has averaged 4.3 Top 25 teams since joining the SEC. We have faced 4.2 a season since 2009 - playing only 1 OOC Top 25 team. You can't just walk into the SEC West and think you are going to make a jump.

Can Jimbo adjust? I don't know.
08-30-2018, 06:56 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I see 5 straight bcs/playoff/NY6 bowls. For all active college coaches that have coached at least 2 seasons at a P5 school, only chip kelly and urban Meyer have a higher winning %

Because he was in the ACC while Miami was down. He ain’t there anymore. You lose 3+ games at FSU and it’s not a great year.
08-30-2018, 07:03 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I see 5 straight bcs/playoff/NY6 bowls. For all active college coaches that have coached at least 2 seasons at a P5 school, only chip kelly and urban Meyer have a higher winning %

Yeah, I don't see anything close to this. Completely different conference & circumstance.
08-30-2018, 07:11 PM
NolaDawgPound

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Originally Posted by msstate7

He's not going anywhere. He'll have aTm fighting for the west title year-in, year-out in 2-3 years

Nah. A&M will never have the complete defense to compete for and win the West. The only year they were remotely close, they had a once in a lifetime college talent at QB, that literally willed them to wins. A&M will always have a Big 12 defense (not Oklahoma) as long as the recruiting sites continue to rank Texas defensive players playing Texas spread high school, finesse teams.

If i were a coach I'd knock at least half of a star off of every Texas defensive player, due to the style of football they play. Until the style of football changes in Texas high schools or they start raiding MS/AL/UGA for SEC defensive talent, they'll be who they've been since they joined the conference. Either win by scoring 35+ points or get shut down against the upper tier SEC defenses.

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