And as bad as I hate to say it, Ron Polk is somewhere laughing his ass off

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06-25-2018, 11:01 AM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Or it could be a Gene Chizik situation...

Well if he brings us a Natty I will take it
06-25-2018, 11:06 AM
DogsofAnarchy

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Our fan base is apparently full of ******s. Good God.

Some of it is Discourse by Design and the other part of the negativity is a bunch of pansy ass ******s who never sniffed a baseball or the grass it’s played on.
06-25-2018, 11:09 AM
DogsofAnarchy

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

of that is due to Cohen's comments. I think the guy is good but we were expecting to get someone "great". None of that is his fault. He better know coming in though that expectations will be high and he will have to produce quickly or he'll lose the fan base quickly. The worst thing that could've have happened to him is our CWS run.

Oh yea, I’m sure he is all worried about what he, “BETTER KNOW.” Spare my ass, some of you have no clue and your discourse hurts MSU, it doesn’t help.
06-25-2018, 11:12 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by DogsofAnarchy

Oh yea, I’m sure he is all worried about what he, “BETTER KNOW.” Spare my ass, some of you have no clue and your discourse hurts MSU, it doesn’t help.

Yep. Cohen will be fine. Moorhead will win big and even his worst hire made a SR. And I think Lemonis will do well here also.
06-25-2018, 11:25 AM
Anonymous

Honestly, this is a great situation with a lot of upside and no risk. Great recruiter, so if it works then great, you know the talent is going to be elite. it doesn't then you promote Gautreau and have a stacked deck.

The only downside to a bigger name was going to be innevitably losing Jake. If you pay a guy 1.5+ you're going to be stuck with that hire for at least 4 years and lose your assistant and potential HCIW over that time.

So with this scenario we eliminate the worst case scenario. Which would be hiring a big name, who may or may not be able to recruit here, failing and us being left with nothing in the tank after he's gone. (Which is basically what happened with Polk 2.0)
06-25-2018, 11:27 AM
LC Dawg

I keep seeing where people think Cohen should explain himself to the fanbase because of what he said during the coaching search. Cohen will explain himself but he will explain himself to a select group of fans and that will be the fans with the largest checkbooks.
Normal athletic donors (or non-donor fans) demanding an explanation from the AD is comical. Cohen is responsible for wins and money. If the new coach wins the money will keep coming in. If the new coach does not win Cohen will have to make a decision and he will again explain himself to certain people.
Remember how we fired our baseball coach 3 games into the season and Cohen held a press conference and explained to everyone exactly what happened?
06-25-2018, 11:29 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Add Manieri, Bianco, Van Horn, Butch, Mingo, Childress, O'Sullivan....to list of people laughing their ass off.

For a while there, they thought they were going to be dealing with a Saban situation in Starkville. Nope, it's a Shula situation.

But maybe this Lemonis will be great, time will tell. It's not his fault that we could not pull a rock-star. He can make me feel better if he gets an Allan Dunn (LSU) or Nate Yeskie (Oregon State) level pitching coach.

For the record, I am now a supporter. I have to be, cause I can't switch teams.

Odds are good Butch and Ming will both be fired in the next five years. If I were them, I?d be more worried about winning just enough to get a better gig. Those are both shit jobs.
06-25-2018, 11:31 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Well if he brings us a Natty I will take it

Lol yeah, love when they say Gene Chizik. Chizik won a natty.
06-25-2018, 11:34 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

So Polk is laughing because we didn't hire Raffo who has been mediocre at Arkansas State? We have had almost as much success since Polk left as when he was here. Actually more if you count that he never played for the title like Cohen.

Whats the deepest Polk ever got in the CWS?
06-25-2018, 11:36 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Whats the deepest Polk ever got in the CWS?

1985. 2-2.
06-25-2018, 11:37 AM
smootness

LOL you did not hate to say that. You loved saying that.
06-25-2018, 11:39 AM
MedDawg

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Or it could be a Gene Chizik situation...

So he gets Ginn to campus, wins a national championship, tanks for a couple years, then we hire another coach that takes us to the finals. I'll take it.
06-25-2018, 11:42 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

So he gets Ginn to campus, wins a national championship, tanks for a couple years, then we hire another coach that takes us to the finals. I'll take it.

Awesome!

That's how you do message board posting.
06-25-2018, 11:43 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

over all this.

I would be willing to bet that Polk don't give a shit.
06-25-2018, 11:45 AM
Anonymous

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

So he gets Ginn to campus, wins a national championship, tanks for a couple years, then we hire another coach that takes us to the finals. I'll take it.

Specifically, we would hire Gautreau in this scenario. Which is what I was getting at, there really is no downside to this hire.

Also, Chiz was 2-10 the previous season when AU hired him, Lem just won 40 games. This ain't that bad guys.
06-25-2018, 11:55 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Lol yeah, love when they say Gene Chizik. Chizik won a natty.

Yeah LOL. Cam Newton and a stacked Auburn team won it and Gene Chizik was gone 2 years later. Exact same thing could happen here and my analogy would be correct, closer to Chizik than Saban.
06-25-2018, 11:56 AM
Jarius

Um....Gene Chizik was a complete failure before he was hired at Auburn. This guy has been to 3 regionals in 4 years at a non baseball school. According to Wiki (I know but still), he has 3 of their 8 regional appearances ever....he did that in 4 years.
06-25-2018, 12:04 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Awesome!

That's how you do message board posting.

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

So he gets Ginn to campus, wins a national championship, tanks for a couple years, then we hire another coach that takes us to the finals. I'll take it.

Bullsh*t. You ppl talk out of both ends to fit your argument. Now it's okay to win a Natty and then not worry about the future?? Then ****ing keep the HC that just took you there! His great assistants and the whole team - that love him BTW - will be back and we'd make another run for a Natty. Then if he falters down the road you replace him with Jake.
06-25-2018, 12:08 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Um....Gene Chizik was a complete failure before he was hired at Auburn. This guy has been to 3 regionals in 4 years at a non baseball school. According to Wiki (I know but still), he has 3 of their 8 regional appearances ever....he did that in 4 years.

Um... and it's been stated over and over in multiple threads that he inherited a great situation and hasn't improved the situation at all. The great recruiter hasn't finished above 30 and doesn't even finish top in the conference... in record or recruiting.
06-25-2018, 12:12 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Add Manieri, Bianco, Van Horn, Butch, Mingo, Childress, O'Sullivan....to list of people laughing their ass off.

For a while there, they thought they were going to be dealing with a Saban situation in Starkville. Nope, it's a Shula situation.

But maybe this Lemonis will be great, time will tell. It's not his fault that we could not pull a rock-star. He can make me feel better if he gets an Allan Dunn (LSU) or Nate Yeskie (Oregon State) level pitching coach.

For the record, I am now a supporter. I have to be, cause I can't switch teams.

If he has Mississippi State on his jersey, I'm for him!

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