Should we redouble our efforts on Schloss and/or McDonnell?

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06-07-2018, 02:40 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

It really seems something happened with Schloss and it wasn't money if we all believe the rumors. Either we screwed up and told him to wait, we moved on for some reason, or he talked it over and decided he wanted to stay where he was.
We might never know the truth. Especially if it's John's fault.

Steve said on the Bone Yard yesterday that he had some more information on the Schloss situation, but he didn't want to comment until after we had a coach.
06-07-2018, 02:46 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by MSU338

I believe this is going to be the only way John Cohen saves face with MSU fans. If he doesn't hire a top tier coach he will have fans questioning him and his abilities till he retires and probably after that. He needs to throw 2.5 million if need be. What is 2.5 million on a HC when you spent 60mill plus on a stadium. Let Cohen work a few years for free since he is the one that got himself in this mess.

You can take it to the bank that Cohen is not going to pay $2.5 million for a baseball head coach.
06-07-2018, 02:49 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I really don't get the panic people are letting set in. We are not going to end up with a "Pruitt" unless we have insane fans that scare off coaches by doing things like publicly smearing their character. We may not end up getting one of the top 5 head coaches from teh country to leave their current position at another power 5 school, but holy shit people. We haven't even offered a Schiano yet. Until we offer Hendo the job, or at the very least least until Tadlock and Butch publicly pull their name out of the running, step away from the ledge.

If I don't like the coach leaking out, I'm saying he was tied up in the Larry Nassar deal.

Not really... just making this more Tennessee like
06-07-2018, 02:56 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yall gettin' crazy now.

+1
06-07-2018, 02:59 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by dawgs

I'd offer a contract for $2M/year and make them walk away. If they walk away add $200K to it until they sign.

I'm glad you aren't our athletic director, and you probably would still be trying to find that $200,000 donation too.
06-07-2018, 03:09 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

You can take it to the bank that Cohen is not going to pay $2.5 million for a baseball head coach.

Well then we need to stop having such ambitious expectations for our program.
06-07-2018, 03:10 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I'm glad you aren't our athletic director, and you probably would still be trying to find that $200,000 donation too.

$200K is a tiny fraction of our SEC Network check. If that makes the difference in a home run hire and a ho hum hire, its worth every penny.
06-07-2018, 03:57 PM
sleepy dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If I don't like the coach leaking out, I'm saying he was tied up in the Larry Nassar deal.

Not really... just making this more Tennessee like

This is America today.
06-07-2018, 04:05 PM
Dawg61

This week makes me miss football recruiting time and I despise football recruiting.
06-07-2018, 05:28 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

$200K is a tiny fraction of our SEC Network check. If that makes the difference in a home run hire and a ho hum hire, its worth every penny.

Yep, would pay for itself many times over if we get a guy in here that finally starts winning natties and hosting regionals and supers more years than not.
06-07-2018, 05:33 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by dawgs

Yep, would pay for itself many times over if we get a guy in here that finally starts winning natties and hosting regionals and supers more years than not.

Wasn't aware we can just buy natty's.
06-07-2018, 05:50 PM
deadheaddawg

These infidelity rumors are stupid. 2 reasons.

1) don't spread sh*t like that unless you know for sure. The guy has kids in high school and college. It's embarrassing to see our fans do it and it feels of sour grapes.

2) basic infidelity is no reason to not hire someone. As long as he isn't breaking the law or sleeping with coworkers or students it would be dumb as hell not to hire a coach like that for something so common

Bonus point. Why hasn't TCU fired him if it's bad enough for us not to hire him?

Stop spreading bullshit rumors like this. Every single person that has brought it up doesn't have a clue if it's true or not. It's a harmful rumor and you are spreading because you got your feelings hurt he turned us down
06-07-2018, 05:52 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I really don't get the panic people are letting set in. We are not going to end up with a "Pruitt" unless we have insane fans that scare off coaches by doing things like publicly smearing their character. We may not end up getting one of the top 5 head coaches from teh country to leave their current position at another power 5 school, but holy shit people. We haven't even offered a Schiano yet. Until we offer Hendo the job, or at the very least least until Tadlock and Butch publicly pull their name out of the running, step away from the ledge.

I'm with Johnson
06-07-2018, 05:58 PM
Bully13

I hardly ever get inside info but I did on the Schloss deal. I firmly believe something 17'd up at the end based on what I was told here in Fort Worth. It was a done deal. Think about something else now too. Just think how 17'd Schloss is right now. Prolly pretty 17'd right now if you ask me.
06-07-2018, 05:59 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

$200K is a tiny fraction of our SEC Network check. If that makes the difference in a home run hire and a ho hum hire, its worth every penny.

That is $200,000 added on to the $2,000,000 so that is $2.2 million. He also said that he would keep offering the $200,000 until it was accepted. That's pretty much why I made the donation comment. Because he would probably be still looking for the donation. Ya'll are throwing football head coaching type salaries out here. Cohen knows what is realistic on top dollar for a head baseball coach.

This is taken from the Louisville Rivals Site in June, 2016 - "Louisville gave McDonnell a 10-year extension on his existing contract and will pay him $1 million in base salary. The contract also includes several retention bonuses, including a $150,000 payment if McDonnell stays at U of L through next summer. He will receive another $150,000 bonus if he's still at U of L in 2020, and then the bonus drops to $100,000 every two years after that, beginning in 2022 and running through 2026.

Now of course he is going to probably receive a "little" extra in his pay check because he was "interested" in our job.
06-07-2018, 06:06 PM
Bully13

Even if you average 10k a game, once you start paying a baseball coach 1.5M plus, you are getting less ROI by far out of the big 3.
06-07-2018, 06:08 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

I hardly ever get inside info but I did on the Schloss deal. I firmly believe something 17'd up at the end based on what I was told here in Fort Worth. It was a done deal. Think about something else now too. Just think how 17'd Schloss is right now. Prolly pretty 17'd right now if you ask me.

Steve said on the Bone Yard yesterday, that he would have some information on this after we actually have hired a coach.
06-07-2018, 06:09 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

That is $200,000 added on to the $2,000,000 so that is $2.2 million. He also said that he would keep offering the $200,000 until it was accepted. That's pretty much why I made the donation comment. Because he would probably be still looking for the donation. Ya'll are throwing football head coaching type salaries out here. Cohen knows what is realistic on top dollar for a head baseball coach.

This is taken from the Louisville Rivals Site in June, 2016 - "Louisville gave McDonnell a 10-year extension on his existing contract and will pay him $1 million in base salary. The contract also includes several retention bonuses, including a $150,000 payment if McDonnell stays at U of L through next summer. He will receive another $150,000 bonus if he's still at U of L in 2020, and then the bonus drops to $100,000 every two years after that, beginning in 2022 and running through 2026.

Now of course he is going to probably receive a "little" extra in his pay check because he was "interested" in our job.

According to this board, Louisville didn't even charge admission for baseball until this season.
06-07-2018, 06:09 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'm with Johnson

I'm with Johnson and you also.
06-07-2018, 06:10 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Even if you average 10k a game, once you start paying a baseball coach 1.5M plus, you are getting less ROI by far out of the big 3.

College sports aren't for profit business where we are looking to maximize our income.

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