Tweeter says we have our new baseball coach

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03-28-2018, 10:36 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I'm not saying I believe this guy or not- I'm talking hypothetically but here is what COULD be happening:

1. Cohen and Butch talked privately- Cohen tells Butch he wants him to be the guy- Butch agrees to it and they will announce after the season
2. Being a good guy- Butch tells his AD privately that he will be leaving after the season to return to State so the AD wont be blindsided
3. Auburn AD has made a call or two to some agents saying he is checking around "in case" Butch leaves for StarkVegas
4. Somebody putting 2 and 2 together as to who could be State's next HC

OR:

This tweeter doesnt know shit and is just throwing something out there that he heard from somebody else that doesnt know shit

Possibly, I just don't think Cohen would have offered Butch the job yet.

That being said, I think Butch would be a solid, high floor, limited ceiling hire. Possibly like a Dan Mullen for the baseball program.

What Butch does bring though is extremely positive:

- Butch is a good recruiter & evaluator
- He's extremely mature & an adult. He's stable & would bring stability to the program.
- Butch loves MSU & MSU is where he wants to be. We would not have to worry about Butch ever leaving for another job. MSU is his dream job
03-28-2018, 10:41 AM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Possibly, I just don't think Cohen would have offered Butch the job yet.

That being said, I think Butch would be a solid, high floor, limited ceiling hire. Possibly like a Dan Mullen for the baseball program.

What Butch does bring though is extremely positive:

- Butch is a good recruiter & evaluator
- He's extremely mature & an adult. He's stable & would bring stability to the program.
- Butch loves MSU & MSU is where he wants to be. We would not have to worry about Butch ever leaving for another job. MSU is his dream job

There is definitely an urgency to get a quality hire on board. My wife talked to the Dad of a recruit in Baton Rouge who has offers from State, Tulane, USM and Oklahoma. His Dad said that they have eliminated State due to the dumpster fire the program has become....we need to get this mess straightened out quick or this is going to look like the Rick Ray years...
03-28-2018, 10:47 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Not saying Butch won't be the guy but I can almost guarantee we haven't offered the job to him yet.

This^. Butch is probably the guy if we miss on everybody. Butch isn't in a hurry to leave AU and we aren't in a hurry to hire him. But, he'd come if we pushed him and needed him to be the coach. Say what you want, State is his dream spot.
03-28-2018, 10:48 AM
Bully13

doesn't make sense to me this early in the season. if true, and the AU AD thinks it's true, they fire Butch immediately.
03-28-2018, 10:53 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Bully13

doesn't make sense to me this early in the season. if true, and the AU AD thinks it's true, they fire Butch immediately.

Yeah, they're going to fire their HC midseason in a year in which they're 20-5 and just outside the top 10.
03-28-2018, 10:53 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

doesn't make sense to me this early in the season. if true, and the AU AD thinks it's true, they fire Butch immediately.

no they wouldn't. They just wouldn't. And I, like most am almost positive there is no deal yet. He's in the hunt though
03-28-2018, 10:56 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

There is definitely an urgency to get a quality hire on board. My wife talked to the Dad of a recruit in Baton Rouge who has offers from State, Tulane, USM and Oklahoma. His Dad said that they have eliminated State due to the dumpster fire the program has become....we need to get this mess straightened out quick or this is going to look like the Rick Ray years...

Eh, pretty poor decision making process to eliminate your best offer before they hire a new coach.

We simply can't straighten out the mess until after the season unless we hire a guy who currently is not coaching. Surely, intelligent people realize that
03-28-2018, 10:56 AM
Cooterpoot

Didn't take long for Rogers to shoot down that Butch rumor.
03-28-2018, 10:58 AM
StarkVegasSteve

I think most would be happy with Butch, at this point any coach not named McDonnell or Schlossnagle is going to have to hit the ground running to make up for the perceived disappointment of not getting a "Tier A" hire. IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Cohen doesn't value Butch as a "Tier A" hire.
03-28-2018, 11:01 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Eh, pretty poor decision making process to eliminate your best offer before they hire a new coach.

We simply can't straighten out the mess until after the season unless we hire a guy who currently is not coaching. Surely, intelligent people realize that

Exactly. This is why you're not seeing a mass exodus of our recruits. I've talked to several and Cohen is keeping them in the loop and they understand we are going to make a great hire and he will. Just gotta be patient right now and trust Cohen.
03-28-2018, 11:01 AM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Eh, pretty poor decision making process to eliminate your best offer before they hire a new coach.

We simply can't straighten out the mess until after the season unless we hire a guy who currently is not coaching. Surely, intelligent people realize that

Honestly I was surprised to hear that our program is being perceived that way.....but it was straight from the horses mouth.
03-28-2018, 11:03 AM
MarketingBully

I’d be good with Butch. He’s the “safe” hire and someone Cohen trusts. He’s done wonders with a very shitty shitty Auburn program. Imo, he’s done a better job with that program then Pearl has done with their basketball program. Both of those programs are equally shit historically in the SEC.
03-28-2018, 11:06 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

Honestly I was surprised to hear that our program is being perceived that way.....but it was straight from the horses mouth.

When your coach is fired for cause for what he was fired for dumpster fire does come to mind.
03-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

When your coach is fired for cause for what he was fired for dumpster fire does come to mind.

.....when you are 13-13, 1-5 SEC what do you call that?
03-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

I'm calling BS. I'd be pissed if we've hired Butch this quickly in the process. I like the dude and would prefer him to Mingione, but I see both of them as the "if all else fails" candidates. We shouldn't have to give either of them a call. Plus, guys who are reputable like Kendall Rogers are saying we're targeting McDonnell and Schlossnagle. I just don't see us falling that far down our list to Butch so soon.

I would be pissed too considering the list put out on 247. BT would be one of my last choices from that list.
03-28-2018, 11:29 AM
Bulldog1

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

I would be pissed too considering the list put out on 247. BT would be one of my last choices from that list.

Did they have any on there other than the names being thrown around here?
03-28-2018, 11:44 AM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

It's been over a month. I have no doubt that Cohen was targeting top coaches, and they could have said no thanks already via their agents. How long do you think it should take? You never know, Butch might have reached out to us. That is, if any of this is true....

No big time coach is going to seriously consider an unofficial offer with 3 months to go to the CWS finale. If we settled on butch in March before giving bigger, better names a chance to turn us down after the season, then Cohen ****ed it up. Shit, I would question butch?s professionalism if he?s unofficially accepting a new gig with 2 months left in the regular season and 3 months left before the natty.

Butch will be there if everyone else falls through. You don’t go with your fall back plan 2 months before the end of the regular season and 3 months before the end of the CWS.
03-28-2018, 11:53 AM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- Butch loves MSU & MSU is where he wants to be. We would not have to worry about Butch ever leaving for another job. MSU is his dream job

According to this thread, HCs don’t move around anyway, so whoever we hire wouldn’t be looking around.
03-28-2018, 12:02 PM
Bully13

Man. I just read Thompson's bio. I want this guy.
03-28-2018, 12:16 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Man. I just read Thompson's bio. I want this guy.

you needed to read his bio to know who he was???? wth????

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