Buddy Stephens (emcc coach)

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10-02-2013, 01:50 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I was under the impression that Stephens tried to stay out of it and CDM said "hell no, you know the agreement." I think that things were on the verge of getting bad but cooler heads prevailed.

If CDM and Buddy aren't talking to each other, that's news to me. B interested to see if anyone knows for sure.

This sounds more plausible. I can imagine the agreement is something like if you want players from me then get them back to me. If you can't do that I will find a JUCO coach that can. Can't imagine it would be in the best interest of any JUCO coach to sway a kid away from the school that placed him there.
10-02-2013, 02:41 PM
601Dawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

our offense vs Troy was a beautiful thing. Have you ever thought that having the right QB in your offense makes a huge difference?

We've had a midget in Tyson Lee
A 2-star in Relf who really couldnt throw it very well
And a statue in Tyler Russell

The offense we ran against Troy is perfect- but it takes a mobile QB that can make throws- we are literally getting that for the 1st time in 5 seasons...let it play out

Yet Dan is going with the Statue this weekend.
10-02-2013, 03:07 PM
hacker

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Originally Posted by 601Dawg

Yet Dan is going with the Statue this weekend.

Doubtful.
10-02-2013, 06:16 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by engie

He's playing a new position that's taken him out of his best element. He needs to move back to FS and I'm betting that he gets moved back after the season.

He takes bad gambles at corner which keep leading to big plays. I question his football IQ. He's basically playing man, cover 3 and a mixture of cover 2. He hasn't broken up a pass yet. He's thinking too much and its showing.
10-02-2013, 06:45 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

He takes bad gambles at corner which keep leading to big plays. I question his football IQ. He's basically playing man, cover 3 and a mixture of cover 2. He hasn't broken up a pass yet. He's thinking too much and its showing.

If you had watched him play FS at East, you wouldn't be. He was one of the most instinctive players I'd ever seen in JUCO as a free safety. In a DB corps that included a strong safety that signed with Georgia and Brassell, Cox was unquestionably the leader and star. He's tremendous in run support there and great in over the top pass support as well.

He's having trouble making the jump to CB, where he's having issues with confidence and is not trusting his instincts, which is leading to second guessing and thus huge busted plays.

IMO, once Redmond is activated next week, we will see Cox go back to Safety, where he can be a huge help to us. That's all that makes sense to me for him. He's being wasted as it is -- and it's hurting us too... With Redmond active and 4 pure corners along with a true freshman with a burned redshirt, we can easily afford to put him in his natural position once Redmond is back...
10-02-2013, 07:08 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by engie

IMO, once Redmond is activated next week, we will see Cox go back to Safety, where he can be a huge help to us. That's all that makes sense to me for him. He's being wasted as it is -- and it's hurting us too... With Redmond active and 4 pure corners along with a true freshman with a burned redshirt, we can easily afford to put him in his natural position once Redmond is back...

I've been hoping this happens as well. If it goes as planned, I think we could end up with the best defense in the SEC outside of Bama.
10-02-2013, 07:11 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I've been hoping this happens as well. If it goes as planned, I think we could end up with the best defense in the SEC outside of Bama.

I dunno -- I think UF's more dominant defensively than Bama. Especially given their offensive ineptitude...
10-02-2013, 07:13 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I've been hoping this happens as well. If it goes as planned, I think we could end up with the best defense in the SEC outside of Bama.

If cox is good enough to play safety for us, then he should be there now IMO. Nickoe is a liability in coverage.
10-02-2013, 07:13 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by engie

I dunno -- I think UF's more dominant defensively than Bama. Especially given their offensive ineptitude...

Florida definitely the best defense in sec
10-02-2013, 07:43 PM
601Dawg

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I've been hoping this happens as well. If it goes as planned, I think we could end up with the best defense in the SEC outside of Bama.

And still struggle to go 3-5 in the SEC
10-02-2013, 08:03 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by engie

If you had watched him play FS at East, you wouldn't be. He was one of the most instinctive players I'd ever seen in JUCO as a free safety. In a DB corps that included a strong safety that signed with Georgia and Brassell, Cox was unquestionably the leader and star. He's tremendous in run support there and great in over the top pass support as well.

He's having trouble making the jump to CB, where he's having issues with confidence and is not trusting his instincts, which is leading to second guessing and thus huge busted plays.

IMO, once Redmond is activated next week, we will see Cox go back to Safety, where he can be a huge help to us. That's all that makes sense to me for him. He's being wasted as it is -- and it's hurting us too... With Redmond active and 4 pure corners along with a true freshman with a burned redshirt, we can easily afford to put him in his natural position once Redmond is back...

I saw a few clips from juco and he looked outstanding. However, those instincts sound translate. I don't know what the deal is but he looks nothing similar to the juco player on film.
10-02-2013, 08:06 PM
hacker

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Originally Posted by 601Dawg

And still struggle to go 3-5 in the SEC

i-n-s-u-f-f-e-r-a-b-l-e
10-02-2013, 08:26 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by 601Dawg

And still struggle to go 3-5 in the SEC

and why no team outside the Big 6 has won the SEC in 51 years- it takes an insane amount of talent to win the league
10-02-2013, 08:33 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I saw a few clips from juco and he looked outstanding. However, those instincts sound translate. I don't know what the deal is but he looks nothing similar to the juco player on film.

Mental...

Much like Slay was at first...
10-02-2013, 08:34 PM
engie

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Originally Posted by Coach34

and why no team outside the Big 6 has won the SEC in 51 years- it takes an insane amount of talent to win the league

This was 7-8 years before Archie Manning played at Ole Miss -- for those keeping count at home.

6 teams have shared 51 titles in a row...since OM won it by signing EVERYONE in Mississippi in the 60s -- to the tune of 40-50 kids/yr....
10-02-2013, 08:41 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If cox is good enough to play safety for us, then he should be there now IMO. Nickoe is a liability in coverage.

Yep yep. We are on the same page on this issue. I would go ahead and get his ass moved over because Nickoe could end up killing us starting this weekend. I would put Love, Calhoun, Jiles, and eventually Redmond in the CB rotation, and go ahead and get Cox working at safety. Nickoe has looked slow and out of position lately. He is at least 3 or 4 steps behind anybody he is supposed to be covering, and sadly most of those are tight ends or Troy-esque WR's. It scares the shit out of me to imagine him having to cover Landry or beckham
10-02-2013, 09:01 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by engie

I dunno -- I think UF's more dominant defensively than Bama. Especially given their offensive ineptitude...

yeah, I thought about Florida and maybe S. Carolina too just because they've got great talent at a few spots. I still think our front seven with Will, Love, Cox, and Nickoe would be a hell of a line up though. It would be difficult to out perform Florida, especially considering how bad the East is this year compared to the West.
10-02-2013, 09:04 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

yeah, I thought about Florida and maybe S. Carolina too just because they've got great talent at a few spots. I still think our front seven with Will, Love, Cox, and Nickoe would be a hell of a line up though. It would be difficult to out perform Florida, especially considering how bad the East is this year compared to the West.

I'd like to see Florida defense vs aTm. I think Florida is gonna give lsu all they want bc lsu won't score big on Florida and lsu's defense is vulnerable. I think Florida could give lsu their third straight loss.

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