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I'm not talking stats. Watching Pryor throw at Ohio St he never looked like a NFL QB passing the ball. Lamar can make some throws that wow you. I think the problem is the last time anybody saw him was his worst game in the 3yrs at Louisville.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Some of you are really reaching stating he's NOT a NFL Qb. He had the worst game of his career against us. I give our defense credit versus trying to bash him. Either we're a good defense or not. Let's say it this way. Had he performed like normal statistically they would have beaten us by 17 points.
Is he going as a receiver? Because I don't think he did anything well (except run) in our bowl game. He is an excellent athlete, and can run a spread run game great, but needs a lot of improvement in the passing dept.
Nah, MDL made his ass quit back in September (when this was released):Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
2018 Alabama football schedule
DATE OPPONENT
Sept. 1 vs. Louisville (Orlando)
Sept. 8 ARKANSAS STATE
Sept. 15 at Ole Miss
Sept. 22 TEXAS A&M
Sept. 29 LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE
Oct. 6 at Arkansas
Oct. 13 MISSOURI
Oct. 20 at Tennessee
Oct. 27 Open Date
Nov. 3 at LSU
Nov. 10 MISSISSIPPI STATE
Nov. 17 CITADEL
Nov. 24 AUBURN
How did Baker look when Ga started getting pressure on him?
How did Peyton look when under intense pressure?
How many other games of his did you watch besides the bowl game?Quote:
Originally Posted by IMissJack
I am not predicting Jackson future either way, but he made terrible throws even when there was no pressure vs usQuote:
Originally Posted by Percho
Oh he no doubt had a bad game. A terrible game but using the worst game of his career to determine his potential at the next level is not smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, I have no idea how he will do. If the choice is him or mayfield though, I go with bakerQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'll just have to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
i'm not using one game. He's not an nfl passer and I don't think he ever will be. I stand by that. I watched him numerous times. He's an ok passer and his comp percentage bears that out. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Jackson was twice the Qb Dak was in college. It ain't even close.
Dude the guy is a freak athlete. He has every tool you could possibly look for in a QB he is just still pretty raw. He was playing highschool ball just 3 years ago. if he gets in with a team where he can develop he has a chance to be a terrific QB in the NFL. If he goes to the Browns he is screwed like any other QB in the draft. The NFL will like him because of all of the tools he has to work with. Comparing him to Manziel or Pryor is a joke. He has the size and arm strength to make it. Also if you watched him in any other game the dude was great at making it through progressions and finding his second, third and forth option something even Dak wasn't all that good at until his Senior year.
Most of his mechanical issues are fairly easy fixes. He doesn't have any hitches in his delivery and he gets the ball out of his hand quick. He does rely on his arm a bit much and doesn't always get his legs involved in the throw and he doesn't throw off his front foot from time to time which will occasionally hurt your accuracy. but those are easy to fix compared to flaws in his throwing motion.
I think he has a bright future as a QB in the league especially as week at the QB position is collectively around the NFL right now. He might not be a top5 or 10 QB in the league for a while but he certainly is talented enough to make a roster as a QB and earn a starting job in the next year or two.
He'll start at some point, but I'm not sure he is ever a multi year NFL starter. Hope he goes to a good fit for him.
I didn't watch him but a handful of times, but his stats against sec teams sucked compared to non sec teams.
He might be twice athletically, which allowed him to make people miss. Which, in turn probably made him a better college qb. However, he wasn't twice the passer and thats what matters in the nfl. Just the way it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
You could without a doubt argue he was twice the passer Dak was. Dak wasn't a good passer until his Sr year and didnt really take the reigns over his junior year. Lamar started as a true freshman. Dak would have been lost on the field as a true freshman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Lamar is more physically gifted as a passer than Dak is as well. He has more arm talent without a doubt. Only argument you could make for Dak was that he has unbelievable leadership qualities and that is worth a lot. But from a physical tools standpoint Lamar and Dak aren't even in the same ball park.
And that is not a knock on Dak he is and was a great QB.
i was referring to the years that they were both starting qb's. The conversation, at least not from me, isn't about a tr fr year or even fr year. Moreso, the year they are leaving for the league and No, Lamar wasnt a better passer in their final year. period.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
ETA, go look at the stats, sorry your argument doesn't compute.
After reading your post again, how in the shit can you argue without a doubt as you say? That's just plain wrong. And I will agree Lamar has a stronger arm. Bookmark this and get back to me when Lamar is a two year starter in the NFL. there are lots of shitty qb's that start a game, that wont cut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Let's see:Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)
Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)
I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.
Passer rating...Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Dak = 151.7
Jackson = 148.8