You know why people freak out in recruiting?

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01-02-2018, 08:30 AM
Leeshouldveflanked

I'm sure LSU was mad they missed on Dak....
01-02-2018, 08:53 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

I'm sure LSU was mad they missed on Dak....

Dak is their Jaylon Smith the Louisville WR.

Mis-evaluations happen and are your own fault.

They probably wish they had Key right now as well.
01-02-2018, 09:15 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

I'm sure LSU was mad they missed on Dak....

LSU is about to be mad about a lot of things. Eddie O being chief among them.
01-02-2018, 09:20 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Lighten up Francis, 11th post, user name

He is right.
01-02-2018, 09:21 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Sure we are probably 3-4 elite players away from a playoff but how many were we away from it if we have Croom's roster?? You don't become a top 4 team overnight or by bitching about recruiting non-stop. You build to it slowly and steadily. The fact we can say we are 3-4 players away is pretty amazing. Enjoy being 9-4 and having a good roster and HC with an exciting offense for the next 9 months. That's what I will be doing.

This
01-02-2018, 09:23 AM
1bigdawg

Davis wanted to play defense and did commit to us briefly. Hevesy used his pull with our head coach to project him as an OL. Then Hevesy was the main recruiter. Nuff said.
01-02-2018, 09:23 AM
thf24

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

I?m still hoping we can get a good grad transfer at WR. One of those guys that just gets open. Heck Hastings at AU was a walk on and I think tenfroenfor Clemson was as well

Not even considering the guys coming in, I have a feeling those already on our roster are suddenly going to be getting open a lot more under Getsy.

I'm not an expert so I'm not going to outright say Gonzo is as bad a coach as he is a recruiter, but when you have quick, fast guys like Gray and Myles who consistently struggled to get open, in my opinion it's got to point to poor coaching on route running and fundamentals.
01-02-2018, 09:26 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

People usually "freak out" or "get upset" or whatever you want to call it because they feel like things are out of control in general with anything in life. The reason a lot of MSU fans freak out about recruiting is we were consistently having guys flipped or losing guys we should have gotten- like AJ and Lashley- and Dan didn't do anything about it until the administration nudged him. And even then it was a band aid.

I think the biggest adjustment we need to make in recruiting going forward is to increase the general effort from the coaching staff. Obviously, we still won't get them ALL- but I bet we cut our losses by 50%. There are other things like increasing the recruiting budget, placing more emphasis on it in football, and etc. But if we do nothing else I want our coaches to put more energy into it. And I think we will see that from Moorhead's staff compared to Dan. People can freak out now- but we are still assembling our staff and will have that mostly finalized this week except for Fountain who I think will be finalized next week if I'm not mistaken. And remember even Freeze lost Richie Brown, Quay, and Nick James among others during the transition from Nutt to Freeze even with their Network in place. So, let's cut our losses of our three star d-linemen and just move forward.

One more time: We were never getting AJ Brown. That was known by at least his JR year in high school. That was between two schools and we weren?t one of them. The one that got him was not the favorite till very late in the game.
01-02-2018, 09:26 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by thf24

Not even considering the guys coming in, I have a feeling those already on our roster are suddenly going to be getting open a lot more under Getsy.

I'm not an expert so I'm not going to outright say Gonzo is as bad a coach as he is a recruiter, but when you have quick, fast guys like Gray and Myles who consistently struggled to get open, in my opinion it's got to point to poor coaching on route running and fundamentals.

Yep.

Couch and Todd are going to look a great deal better next season from a coach that knows what he's doing. Guidry, Heath and Whop are going to look like freaks of nature.
01-02-2018, 09:42 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

One more time: We were never getting AJ Brown. That was known by at least his JR year in high school. That was between two schools and we weren?t one of them. The one that got him was not the favorite till very late in the game.

Yep!! I can confirm this. ^^
01-02-2018, 09:43 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

If, if's, ands and buts were all candy and nuts we'd all have a wonderful Christmas as well.
01-02-2018, 10:06 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

I'm sure LSU was mad they missed on Dak....

Maybe you should read my post. Dak wasn't a 4 or 5 star. They missed on evaluation and they can't develop a qb anyway, but they didn't try to get him as a qb. So there's that.
01-02-2018, 10:54 AM
maroonmania

I think people on here get more irritated with guys that stay committed to us for months but then flip when it comes time to sign than guys like Brown that never gave us any real indication that he wanted to play for us. Sometimes it seems that there are some guys that just commit to us to drive up the "offer" price from OM to provide them the flipmas they so desire. Now whether most of these ever had any real intention of coming to State in the first place I don't really know.
01-02-2018, 11:47 AM
PassInterference

Could you imagine how diluted football in Alabama would be if they had 4 SEC schools?

If Alabama has the same number of SEC schools per capita as us, they would almost have 4.

Tells you how diluted MS is, especially with #TheNetwork rolling again.
01-02-2018, 11:51 AM
5049

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

Could you imagine how diluted football in Alabama would be if they had 4 SEC schools?

If Alabama has the same number of SEC schools per capita as us, they would almost have 4.

Tells you how diluted MS is, especially with #TheNetwork rolling again.

You got it. This is the answer.

Only solution is for the state of Mississippi to grow. Except it's not....
01-02-2018, 11:51 AM
5049

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

I'm sure LSU was mad they missed on Dak....

This is such a clueless post. It adds nothing to this discussion. Nothing. It actually detracts.
01-02-2018, 01:01 PM
dawgs

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

One more time: We were never getting AJ Brown. That was known by at least his JR year in high school. That was between two schools and we weren?t one of them. The one that got him was not the favorite till very late in the game.

That’s the point. A guy grows up in the shadow of a sec program experiencing their highest level of success with dak leading them to #1 in the country for 5 weeks and he wouldn’t even consider us. You think any other sec program worth a shit loses a guy in their hometown like that with that level of success during his HS years?
01-02-2018, 01:47 PM
UMCDawg16

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Originally Posted by Dildoes

Freaking out like a giant ***** and shit-talking high school kids on an internet message board is gonna do the exact opposite of whatever y?all seem to think it will. I swear some of y?all post the stupidest shit trying to tear down high school kids who owe no one anything. Those of y?all that tweet it at recruits are even worse.

Your name is Dildoes, GTFO.
01-02-2018, 03:53 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

Could you imagine how diluted football in Alabama would be if they had 4 SEC schools?

If Alabama has the same number of SEC schools per capita as us, they would almost have 4.

Tells you how diluted MS is, especially with #TheNetwork rolling again.

Alabama doesn't have twice Mississippi population.

It would be like Alabama having three sec schools. Or ark having two.
01-02-2018, 04:07 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by dawgs

That’s the point. A guy grows up in the shadow of a sec program experiencing their highest level of success with dak leading them to #1 in the country for 5 weeks and he wouldn’t even consider us. You think any other sec program worth a shit loses a guy in their hometown like that with that level of success during his HS years?

I don't blame the guy for not wanting to go to state. I have a problem with how he handled the situation but no issue with him wanting to go somewhere else. Do you get mad a every starkville kid that wants to go to a different school due to wanting a different degree? Not every Starkville high school kid goes to state. Alabama had him right up until the wads of $$$$ came flowing. Again, I wouldn't have had a problem with him going to Alabama.

Just because you grow up somewhere doesn't mean you are automatically going to go there. He just wasn't ever a big state fan and nothing was going to change that. Time to move on from AJ. It is no different than us signing DP from South Panola.

It sucks that he didn't want to come but it is part of it. We just need to keep chugging along and keep winning 7-10 games a year and slowly climb up the ladder. If our new staff can continue to have the success that Mullen had it will prove that it wasn't all because of Mullen and that we actually have a decent place to win football games. 18 year olds in highschool now were 7 or 8 Crooms last year so all they really remember of Miss state football is a team that wins. That is huge and a big change over our entire history. Sophomores and Juniors have seen us have very few losing seasons. Perception will slowly change. Give it time Rome wasn't built in a day.

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