OM to deny majority of violations

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Wow. They've lost Barney. That spells disaster for the Rebs. He's going to roll on them hard.

We've held from the start that they've mismanaged this about as poorly as they could. This is just one more minor idiotic step they took, but it's going to cost them dearly. Taco boy better get on the phone and pony up some diablo sauce to the big purple dinosaur or Ole Miss is about to get buried 6-feet under.

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I don't think there's enough nacho bel grandes on the planet to save them now.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Wow. They've lost Barney. That spells disaster for the Rebs. He's going to roll on them hard.

We've held from the start that they've mismanaged this about as poorly as they could. This is just one more minor idiotic step they took, but it's going to cost them dearly. Taco boy better get on the phone and pony up some diablo sauce to the big purple dinosaur or Ole Miss is about to get buried 6-feet under.

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No, Barney has been set up. He has no credibility with the NCAA now. Ole Miss, administration and boosters, played him like Clapton does a guitar.

Barney now sees the "Real" Freeze and what OM will do to win. They have destroyed him career wise. Bet he's sure wishing he had never come close to the scum up there about right now

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

"Largest violations the NCAA has brought against one school in 30 years."

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And didn't olemiss already hold the distinction of having the most severe penalties ever handed down from the NCAA since the SMU case? I know I've used that line before.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

No, Barney has been set up. He has no credibility with the NCAA now. Ole Miss, administration and boosters, played him like Clapton does a guitar.

Barney now sees the "Real" Freeze and what OM will do to win. They have destroyed him career wise. Bet he's sure wishing he had never come close to the scum up there about right now

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Was this part of the rebel rags sting operation that om admin supposedly setup?

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

No, Barney has been set up. He has no credibility with the NCAA now. Ole Miss, administration and boosters, played him like Clapton does a guitar.

Barney now sees the "Real" Freeze and what OM will do to win. They have destroyed him career wise. Bet he's sure wishing he had never come close to the scum up there about right now

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There's no doubt about that. But scared people talk. And he's scared. He's spilling his beans about every dirty thing that's ever happened out of freeze's office. They'll try to pitch him as the crazy guy with vengeance on his mind. They fail to understand this isn't a court of law. The NCAA will either believ him or not... and considering the mountain of evidence they already have implicating Ole Miss in more violations than any other program in 30-years, I have a strong feeling they'll acknowledge his testimony as credible. He's basically confirming what they already know, but from inside the football office.

I'll also add this...Ole Miss is fighting because they don't want to accept the NCAA penalty. Everyone thinks it's the Freeze show cause or the LOIC. That's not it. They're fighting to avoid the death penalty right now. Their fate is tied to Freeze's and his staff's. The entire ship is about to hit the bottom of the ocean and they'll never recover.

Looks like the Shitbirds are desperately seeking company for their misery & have collectively moved on from Leo Lewis and are now leaning all their hopes on Kobe Jones lying to the NCAA.

Even David Johnson stated this morning when asked about the Kobe rumor that "There is a lot of truth to it."

It's hard to imagine a dumber group of subhumans. Obviously David's statement isn't definitive and leaves him an out when absolutely nothing comes from it. How pathetic.

I wonder if they'll lash out at Indiana now that Bobby tell em bout Jo Jo Gentry wrote this article?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Looks like the Shitbirds are desperately seeking company for their misery & have collectively moved on from Leo Lewis and are now leaning all their hopes on Kobe Jones lying to the NCAA.

Even David Johnson stated this morning when asked about the Kobe rumor that "There is a lot of truth to it."

It's hard to imagine a dumber group of subhumans. Obviously David's statement isn't definitive and leaves him an out when absolutely nothing comes from it. How pathetic.

I wonder if they'll lash out at Indiana now that Bobby tell em bout Jo Jo Gentry wrote this article?

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I wonder how David would feel if his son Eli was accused of something and paul jones put out rumors about it?

So, assuming that they get the death penalty, what will happen with the SEC schools who lose a conference game. You will have 6 West teams and 2 East teams who will lose a game. I guess its possible for 2 of the west teams to schedule the 2 east teams to make up for the lost game, depending on Byes, but that still leaves 4 teams scrambling for an opponent. This mess will not only destroy OM but could possibly negatively affect scheduling for years to come.

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Originally Posted by Dawgbite

So, assuming that they get the death penalty, what will happen with the SEC schools who lose a conference game. You will have 6 West teams and 2 East teams who will lose a game. I guess its possible for 2 of the west teams to schedule the 2 east teams to make up for the lost game, depending on Byes, but that still leaves 4 teams scrambling for an opponent. This mess will not only destroy OM but could possibly negatively affect scheduling for years to come.

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I think the schedule factor is overblown. All they would need to do is go back and reset the SEC schedule. For example: Ole Miss plays Vanderbilt & us this year. So we would absorb Vanderbilt on our schedule & so on & so forth.

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Originally Posted by Dawgbite

So, assuming that they get the death penalty, what will happen with the SEC schools who lose a conference game. You will have 6 West teams and 2 East teams who will lose a game. I guess its possible for 2 of the west teams to schedule the 2 east teams to make up for the lost game, depending on Byes, but that still leaves 4 teams scrambling for an opponent. This mess will not only destroy OM but could possibly negatively affect scheduling for years to come.

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First the NCAA schedules the death penalty years for 2018 & 2019 or 2019 & 2020 (yes, I believe they will get two years off. That will give all their opponents time to reschedule. Don't forget that OM OOC teams will have to find a new opponent too so that would be an easy first place to look for another opponent.

Also, scheduling the DP further out gives players and staff an opportunity to go elsewhere. Before someone says this is too harsh and too disruptive remember that OM's actions caused this. The NCAA has no choice but put their foot down again like they did with SMU or they will lose control of CFB forever.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

There's no doubt about that. But scared people talk. And he's scared. He's spilling his beans about every dirty thing that's ever happened out of freeze's office. They'll try to pitch him as the crazy guy with vengeance on his mind. They fail to understand this isn't a court of law. The NCAA will either believ him or not... and considering the mountain of evidence they already have implicating Ole Miss in more violations than any other program in 30-years, I have a strong feeling they'll acknowledge his testimony as credible. He's basically confirming what they already know, but from inside the football office.

I'll also add this...Ole Miss is fighting because they don't want to accept the NCAA penalty. Everyone thinks it's the Freeze show cause or the LOIC. That's not it. They're fighting to avoid the death penalty right now. Their fate is tied to Freeze's and his staff's. The entire ship is about to hit the bottom of the ocean and they'll never recover.

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The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think the schedule factor is overblown. All they would need to do is go back and reset the SEC schedule. For example: Ole Miss plays Vanderbilt & us this year. So we would absorb Vanderbilt on our schedule & so on & so forth.

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But with 2 east teams and 6 West teams, the numbers don't match. If we picked up Vandy and say Ala. picked up their other East opponent, what are you going to do with the other 4 ? I don't think LSU and A&M will play twice.

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Originally Posted by Dawgbite

So, assuming that they get the death penalty, what will happen with the SEC schools who lose a conference game. You will have 6 West teams and 2 East teams who will lose a game. I guess its possible for 2 of the west teams to schedule the 2 east teams to make up for the lost game, depending on Byes, but that still leaves 4 teams scrambling for an opponent. This mess will not only destroy OM but could possibly negatively affect scheduling for years to come.

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They are not going to get the death penalty.Not one as far as a "you can't play football this year" death penalty.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

As many on here have seen me post ad nauseum .. the plan all along is to have Barney and boosters take the hit.

It's the only hope they have. They have to try to convince the NCAA that Freeze was a stickler for compliance, and that he stayed on top of it but despite him being the most diligent HC on compliance in the nation, Barney went rouge and set up the booster involvement.

The boosters will take the hit because of their love for OM.

Barney is now damaged goods and ,in the NCAA's eyes, an uncreditable witness. He has already been caught lying to them. Of course he was under the impression that he was to be taken care of by OM. Once he lied for them, OM got what they wanted. They then stabbed him in the back. They could now point to him and say "See!!! He's a liar!!! He set all this up!! He's been lying to us all along!"

So they fire him and Barney now threatens to burn them. OM laughs and says go ahead, they ain't gonna believe you. You're a proven liar who is now just a disgruntled employee.

Plus the boosters are gonna claim it was all Barney too.

OM has fired no one else in a case with "the largest violations the NCAA has brought against one school in 30 years." Think about that.

Poor ole Barn, fell for Freeze's "Faith and Family" bullshit hook,line and sinker. I'm to lazy to go back and look up all the Freeze quotes and tweets about his "Brother in Christ" Barney and all their walks and talks in their spiritual journeys. Nothing but praises for poor ole Barn until he got suspended.

And then Freeze goes out yesterday and talks about how confident he is that he has clean hands, and how he asked Bjork and Vitter could he do anything to be better at compliance, and that they said no. Then that new rules are "reckless"

I think he's an actual sociopath. Dan Wolken called he and Butch Jones basically the 2 most un- self aware coaches in the nation yesterday in a tweet.

The Culture of Corruption is all in. If Freeze, and others on his staff survive this, the new rules are "there are no rules"

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Spider, what is your opinion on penalties and/or show causes?

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.

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They might not take everything he says as law but if he is giving more information on things they have already proven that is completely different. So if the NCAA knows that player A received payment but Barney tells them where the payment came from then he is just adding to what they already knew. If you have a witness to a murder and then another person tells you where they hid the gun. Just because the person had a grudge against the murderer doesn't mean you can't use the gun as evidence.

I been mis-pronouncing his name the whole time. (Fairer?)

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

No, Barney has been set up. He has no credibility with the NCAA now. Ole Miss, administration and boosters, played him like Clapton does a guitar.

Barney now sees the "Real" Freeze and what OM will do to win. They have destroyed him career wise. Bet he's sure wishing he had never come close to the scum up there about right now

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You're wrong about one thing - Barney is a key witness.

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Originally Posted by Token Bammer

Spider, what is your opinion on penalties and/or show causes?

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This case is laying the basis of what punishment programs get with the new matrix. If UNM doesn't get hammered back into the stone age then hello wild west.

after watching the video after only reading the article, that lawyer isn't actually screaming his clients innocence. his quote is weird.... ?To use the excuse well everyone is doing it, that?s just not a good defense,? Farrar?s lawyer, Bruse Loyd of Jones, Gillaspia & Loyd LLP,? said. ?If you don?t (follow the rules), you?ll find yourself in a position that the University of Mississippi Athletic Department has found itself.?

Who's excuse that is not a good defense? Barns or OM's? OM isn't gonna use that defense, they are screaming innocence.

The lawyer obviously leaked the info to somebody at that station. Again, why there? He is a Texas lawyer and it's a Mississippi case.

It makes it seem that maybe, again MAYBE, it's a cover up of Barney's golden parachute. That what I have truly believed all along is that, Barney and the boosters would take the fall. That they would all tell the committee that it was all them, done in a way Hugh or OM could never have known about.

Reading the article at first looked like OM had screwed Barn, but now it could be just another part of the plan. The article blew my mind because i couldn't see how screwing Barn could happen unless they got him dis credited.

Who knows?

Unlike Freeze in actuality, I'm ready for this to be over.

Either he is a true sociopath, or he is confident he is gonna be good.

We will know at some point if it's going sideways for OM..... when they start eating their own.

If I were Barney, I would have started taping every conversation I had with anyone ole miss once I realized that I was a possible sacrifice (which should have been immediately after draft day, if not earlier). I don't know if it would be admissible, but I would have taped.