That Saban contract though....

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

So.... how did his royal highness do when he had "MSU" talent vs rest of the league??? (aka 1st year at bama, LSU, Mich St., Dolphins?). Give most coaches (aka Freezus) 5* talent (and the $$$ to get 'em) vs. 2-3* star talent and he will be a major success. You think Satan could come to MSU and win like he has... you're 17'n nuts!

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So are you saying that you don't think Saban is one of the best college football coaches ever?

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

So.... how did his royal highness do when he had "MSU" talent vs rest of the league??? (aka 1st year at bama, LSU, Mich St., Dolphins?). Give most coaches (aka Freezus) 5* talent (and the $$$ to get 'em) vs. 2-3* star talent and he will be a major success. You think Satan could come to MSU and win like he has... you're 17'n nuts!

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This is what I don't get from some...GIVE Saban that talent..nobody GAVE him shit. They didn't have it before he got there. So how do you think it is what it is now? Saban. He should get all the credit and then some because he created that machine to what it is now. I just don't get the "well anyone could win with that talent"...well the talent is there because Saban gets it there.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

This is what I don't get from some...GIVE Saban that talent..nobody GAVE him shit. They didn't have it before he got there. So how do you think it is what it is now? Saban. He should get all the credit and then some because he created that machine to what it is now. I just don't get the "well anyone could win with that talent"...well the talent is there because Saban gets it there.

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Agree with all of this, but I'll add the Saban National Championship affect doesn't happen at any school he'd go to. He isn't turning Purdue into a perennial national champion for example. Could he duplicate it or even surpass it at some other Universities? Sure but I don't think it's more than 10-15 schools that he could build into such a dominate power as Alabama has been.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

So.... how did his royal highness do when he had "MSU" talent vs rest of the league??? (aka 1st year at bama, LSU, Mich St., Dolphins?). Give most coaches (aka Freezus) 5* talent (and the $$$ to get 'em) vs. 2-3* star talent and he will be a major success. You think Satan could come to MSU and win like he has... you're 17'n nuts!

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This reminded me of the '14 MSU @ Bammer game.... when a few on here suggested that MSU "had a better team/more talent"... then bitch the game was "rigged"...

But I digress...

While I don't believe Saban has Bryant's ability to "take his'n and beat your'n", he's certainly better at running a c. 21st century 500 company....

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Originally Posted by TUSK

This reminded me of the '14 MSU @ Bammer game.... when a few on here suggested that MSU "had a better team/more talent"... then bitch the game was "rigged"...

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If we play yall in Starkville or even on a neutral field in 2014, we beat yall by 10.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

While I don't believe Saban has Bryant's ability to "take his'n and beat your'n", he's certainly better at running a c. 21st century 500 company....

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Bryant can't hold Saban's jock strap as far as I am concerned. Saban has more limitations placed on him with regards to recruiting and bending the rules than Bryant could have ever dreamed of.

Saban is Football Jesus. He walks on the water of the college athletics landscape. But you still can't say a player shouldn't get paid if he's making Monopoly money.
And I'm NOT for players being paid, but when you see this kind of stuff, you just can't defend it. At some point, the NCAA is going to have to create a salary cap for these programs.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Agree with all of this, but I'll add the Saban National Championship affect doesn't happen at any school he'd go to. He isn't turning Purdue into a perennial national champion for example. Could he duplicate it or even surpass it at some other Universities? Sure but I don't think it's more than 10-15 schools that he could build into such a dominate power as Alabama has been.

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I disagree on the Purdue thing. He wouldn't go anywhere that wouldn't allow him carte blanche to run his program. If Purdue would do that he would implement it. Might take longer but it would happen. He's the reason.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I disagree on the Purdue thing. He wouldn't go anywhere that wouldn't allow him carte blanche to run his program. If Purdue would do that he would implement it. Might take longer but it would happen. He's the reason.

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I'm with ya on this...

dead nuts on.

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I'm with ya on this...

dead nuts on.

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What are you talking about? If Saban were at MSU he'd be 4-8, 5-7 most years ... he might get to 6-6 on a good year ***** Only Dan can have a winning record at MSU *****

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What are you talking about? If Saban were at MSU he'd be 4-8, 5-7 most years ... he might get to 6-6 on a good year ***** Only Dan can have a winning record at MSU *****

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

If we play yall in Starkville or even on a neutral field in 2014, we beat yall by 10.

Bryant can't hold Saban's jock strap as far as I am concerned. Saban has more limitations placed on him with regards to recruiting and bending the rules than Bryant could have ever dreamed of.

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This is incorrect.

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This is incorrect.

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Again I see your shade.

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This is incorrect.

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You don't think that might have helped us win it. Y'all only had 323 yds or so of total O when you had been putting up 600+ or so against everyone in TTown. On the road your offense struggled. We put up 423 or so on y'all. Dak may have not thrown the 3 picks at home. Pretty hostile environment we were playing in.

I believe we were as good as y'all that year but Mullen's game prep wasn't great leading into it. 1st time in that situation so he gets a bye on that one. Saban got the Lone Survivor dude to fly in and motivate his boys.

ETA: It's a moot point really but I think we may would've won in Vegas.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

$11.125 Million ..............at what point do we call college athletics a professional sport? He could pay each player on the team over $38,0000 with the money he's making. At some point, the NCAA is going to have to address the big money in college athletics. It's getting out of control.
Byrne at $1.2 million.

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It's probably 98% private money and I have no problem with allowing individuals allocating their dollars to a hobby of their choosing

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm all for it. Sorry Dan.

Of course he would have to deal with our fans about cussing too much. Watching him go off on David Murray would be worth the price alone though.

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Did yall hear that? Todd said he wants Mullen fired!!****

Saban is waaaaayyyyy underpaid & Mullen probably is also.

I listened to Clay Travis break this down the other day & he basically made this point: Since Saban became Alabama's coach, the freshmen classes at Alabama have gone from on average about 33% out of state students to 60+% out of state students presently leading to about $50+ million additional dollars a year in out of state tuition fees. And that's just on tuition fees........ What about additional ticket sales? apparel? Capital funding? Donations?

What is Saban worth to that university?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

What is Saban worth to that university?

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What is he worth to the state of Alabama? Alabama football is top 5 business for the entire state. It literally feeds the entire state.