Good article on o-line recruiting by Jake Wimberly

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03-14-2017, 06:17 AM
PassInterference

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Originally Posted by justwin

I know you're joking, but that would completely turn me off & probably many of the MSU grads. Say what you want, but Mullen's character revealed more to me about he handled the Scam situation that anything else. A once in a lifetime player he let walk b/c he was unwilling to cheat to get him.

But yeah, Mullen just needs to hire a better OL recruiter. Hev is an old grump and probably good at coaching them, but sub par recruiter.

Has Looney recruited good OL during his college career at other places?

SMH.
03-14-2017, 06:50 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by justwin

I know you're joking, but that would completely turn me off & probably many of the MSU grads. Say what you want, but Mullen's character revealed more to me about he handled the Scam situation that anything else. A once in a lifetime player he let walk b/c he was unwilling to cheat to get him.

But yeah, Mullen just needs to hire a better OL recruiter. Hev is an old grump and probably good at coaching them, but sub par recruiter.

Has Looney recruited good OL during his college career at other places?

Yes I was joking but Freeze said and I heard him say that he learned how to recruit from Coach O. Well we know how Freeze recruits ($).

It is still early in the process and Mullen is good for at least one rabbit out of the hat trick every signing day.
03-14-2017, 07:33 AM
1bigdawg

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Our OL recruiting has gotten better since 2014 but its still the main thing holding us back from going to ATL. We may not do it even with an elite OL. Its hard to do with Saban down the road. I think this years OL has the POTENTIAL to be one of our better groups but we shall see

2018 has the potential to be a really good group. In 2017, it will take us a long time to gel with all the new faces and Hev moving them around until two weeks before the game.

I understand that we want depth and that when we are thin at the position that means guys needing to know multiple positions. However, a better plan is to recruit well enough to have two deep at every position, even if a couple of the backups are young.
03-14-2017, 07:59 AM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by state66

I dont buy the whole staff recruiting thing. At the end of the day the athlete is going to choose the position coach he likes most. What OL is going to come to Mississippi State because he loved the WR coach? That argument is stupid. Once our staff has identified these kids and get them on campus its up to Hevesy to close and close he does not do.

This pretty much nails it. It is apparent that a lot of good offensive linemen don't want to play for Hevesy. Mullen is sacrificing the team potential to be really good by his unwavering friendship.
03-14-2017, 08:05 AM
AROB44

When this site needs to generate clicks, just start a thread about the OL. Pretty much the same ole same ole. Nothing changes....guess it make some folks feel better to regurgitate the same stuff over and over. Must cleanse their system....
03-14-2017, 08:12 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by AROB44

When this site needs to generate clicks, just start a thread about the OL. Pretty much the same ole same ole. Nothing changes....guess it make some folks feel better to regurgitate the same stuff over and over. Must cleanse their system....

We havent lacked for clicks since the day we started
03-14-2017, 08:26 AM
AROB44

My bad....should have said to increase clicks....
03-14-2017, 08:30 AM
Jack Lambert

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

We havent lacked for clicks since the day we started

Seems like yesterday the board was asking for clicks to raise money for kids or something like that.
03-14-2017, 08:31 AM
Liverpooldawg

I have a question: Were we actually recruiting Cole Smith? It doesn't seem he was that high a profile recruit until last week. LSU and Oregon offered last week and those are still evidently his only Power 5 offers. This one is just really strange all the way around.
03-14-2017, 08:40 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Seems like yesterday the board was asking for clicks to raise money for kids or something like that.

we ask for people to click on the ads to help support the site in lieu of asking people to donate money to pay for the site fees and its maintenance.

We dont ask for people to click threads.
03-14-2017, 08:41 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I have a question: Were we actually recruiting Cole Smith? It doesn't seem he was that high a profile recruit until last week. LSU and Oregon offered last week and those are still evidently his only Power 5 offers. This one is just really strange all the way around.

Well that is what everybody is curious about. As shitty as our OL recruiting has been- why arent we recruiting him?
03-14-2017, 08:42 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Yes I was joking but Freeze said and I heard him say that he learned how to recruit from Coach O. Well we know how Freeze recruits ($).

It is still early in the process and Mullen is good for at least one rabbit out of the hat trick every signing day.

Yep, Coach O wrote the book on "making mistakes".
03-14-2017, 09:10 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Well that is what everybody is curious about. As shitty as our OL recruiting has been- why arent we recruiting him?

I don't think he has but four offers, none in state or from Memphis. It's just strange.
03-14-2017, 09:40 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I don't think he has but four offers, none in state or from Memphis. It's just strange.

I don't know but the kid is a legacy and from right up the road so what is strange is why the heck we haven't offered? I mean, hell's bells, its not like we ought to be ultra picky when recruiting OL. We already know that Hev is not going to get the "top targets" on the board anyway. Its never happened any other year so why would it this year? I'd be willing to bet that we won't sign an OL this recruiting cycle with more than 2 other P5 offers besides ours (as per usual) so committing a guy with an Oregon and LSU offer looks pretty dang good to me even if he never got another one. Vast majority of OL Hev signs do not have ANY P5 offers besides ours!
03-14-2017, 09:48 AM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I don't know but the kid is a legacy and from right up the road so what is strange is why the heck we haven't offered? I mean, hell's bells, its not like we ought to be ultra picky when recruiting OL. We already know that Hev is not going to get the "top targets" on the board anyway. Its never happened any other year so why would it this year? I'd be willing to bet that we won't sign an OL this recruiting cycle with more than 2 other P5 offers besides ours (as per usual) so committing a guy with an Oregon and LSU offer looks pretty dang good to me even if he never got another one. Vast majority of OL Hev signs do not have ANY P5 offers besides ours!

I don't know how reliable the article is, but it states he's one of the top 10 centers in the nation.
03-14-2017, 09:52 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I don't know but the kid is a legacy and from right up the road so what is strange is why the heck we haven't offered? I mean, hell's bells, its not like we ought to be ultra picky when recruiting OL. We already know that Hev is not going to get the "top targets" on the board anyway. Its never happened any other year so why would it this year? I'd be willing to bet that we won't sign an OL this recruiting cycle with more than 2 other P5 offers besides ours (as per usual) so committing a guy with an Oregon and LSU offer looks pretty dang good to me even if he never got another one. Vast majority of OL Hev signs do not have ANY P5 offers besides ours!

USM and Memphis aren't P5 and they haven't offered him either. Memphis is just up the road too.
03-14-2017, 10:12 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

USM and Memphis aren't P5 and they haven't offered him either. Memphis is just up the road too.

And they probably shouldn't bother. They have a near zero chance to get him anyway when he has an LSU and Oregon offer on the table. So to me whether they've offered or not is irrelevant.
03-14-2017, 10:18 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

And they probably shouldn't bother. They have a near zero chance to get him anyway when he has an LSU and Oregon offer on the table. So to me whether they've offered or not is irrelevant.

They hadn't offered before those either. This guy may be good, but there wasn't much interest before, and still isn't from what it looks like. It's just weird.
03-14-2017, 10:43 AM
Cooterpoot

Our entire OL evaluation process is garbage. We couldn't identify a quality OL in a line-up of NFL all pros. We don't just miss, we sign shitty OL. Our belief that we can get by with mediocre OL is on Mullen.
03-14-2017, 10:55 AM
Maroon Wizardry

I haven't been on this site very long but should it be renamed to http://WWW.ElitedawgsBitchingIncessa...Recruiting.com because if that is the case i will take my clicks elsewhere.

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