Thoughts on a Tony Romo for JJ Watt trade?

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02-10-2017, 09:26 AM
Maroons

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Originally Posted by missouridawg

Vikings, Cardinals, Denver, and Houston are all in this same boat. Super Bowl contenders with a healthy Romo.

Carson Palmer is back for Arizona.
02-10-2017, 09:27 AM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

The problem with that is that the Vikings already gave up their 2017 first round pick to the eagles for Sam Bradford. Don't think they go after him. Plus, Bradford had a hell of a season that no one talks about:

He threw for almost 4,000 yards, 20(ish) tds, and like 5 interceptions. I think he also set some record for highest completion percentage. The reason the vikings sucked were not because of him. They sucked because of their OL and they had no viable rb once AP went down.

And because Bradford didn't have any decent weapons around him due to a certain 1st round WR they were counting on from Ole Miss sucking ass.
02-10-2017, 09:28 AM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Maroons

Carson Palmer is back for Arizona.

He sucks. Let me rephrase...he isn't winning them a Championship
02-10-2017, 09:43 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

The problem with that is that the Vikings already gave up their 2017 first round pick to the eagles for Sam Bradford. Don't think they go after him. Plus, Bradford had a hell of a season that no one talks about:

He threw for almost 4,000 yards, 20(ish) tds, and like 5 interceptions. I think he also set some record for highest completion percentage. The reason the vikings sucked were not because of him. They sucked because of their OL and they had no viable rb once AP went down.

I only watched the Vikings a few times this year and Bradford wasn't very impressive, so his stats surprise me. Honestly though, that just tells me romo would put up monster numbers there bc Bradford isn't in the same ballpark with a healthy romo imo
02-10-2017, 09:51 AM
DancingRabbit

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Dak ought to see if the Boys would pay league minimum for Derunnya, ha. They had some chemistry.

I read where Fred Ross has met with the Cowboys
02-10-2017, 09:51 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

He sucks. Let me rephrase...he isn't winning them a Championship

Well, let's be honest - neither is Romo.
02-10-2017, 09:54 AM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

If they're trading Watt, they can get much better than Romo.

^^^This
02-10-2017, 10:05 AM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by MafiaDawg

The cowboys should be able to get a TON for Romo. There are plenty of teams that need a legit starting qb.

Yeah, and if any team trades for Romo, the chances of him becoming a legit starting QB for them is about 5%. He's old, has a terrible injury history, is way past his prime (and wasn't ever Brady / Peyton / Brees good to begin with), and has a bad contract. Not to mention he won't have nearly the same offensive supporting cast at a Minnesota, Houston, or Denver as he had in Dallas. His absolute ceiling is MAYBE a top 15 QB in the league at this point, and that is if he is able to stay healthy. Some team may be dumb enough to give up a lot for him, but it would have to be an extraordinary situation where they have literally every other position on the field locked down for 2017 only before a bunch of key guys head into free agency, and they want to roll the dice on a potential run while all pieces are in place. I don't think there is a team out there that fits that criteria.
02-10-2017, 10:11 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

Yeah, and if any team trades for Romo, the chances of him becoming a legit starting QB for them is about 5%. He's old, has a terrible injury history, is way past his prime (and wasn't ever Brady / Peyton / Brees good to begin with), and has a bad contract. Not to mention he won't have nearly the same offensive supporting cast at a Minnesota, Houston, or Denver as he had in Dallas. His absolute ceiling is MAYBE a top 15 QB in the league at this point, and that is if he is able to stay healthy. Some team may be dumb enough to give up a lot for him, but it would have to be an extraordinary situation where they have literally every other position on the field locked down for 2017 only before a bunch of key guys head into free agency, and they want to roll the dice on a potential run while all pieces are in place. I don't think there is a team out there that fits that criteria.

A healthy romo is much better than you give him credit for. In '14, he put up a qb rating of 113.2, which was the 7th best for a season ever and better than Brady's this year. He has a career qb rating of 97.1 which is 4th all time in NFL history. Health is a major concern though
02-10-2017, 10:15 AM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by missouridawg

AGe-wise... JJ is technically in his prime. But he has been injured quite a bit these past 2-3 years himself.

I agree. Watt has also stated publicly that he may not be that far away from retirement.

I Definitely think that this is the route the Cowboys should go though, but just for a more long term prospect. Von Miller Perhaps ?
02-10-2017, 10:20 AM
Reason2succeed

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Originally Posted by louisvilledawg

The problem with that is that the Vikings already gave up their 2017 first round pick to the eagles for Sam Bradford. Don't think they go after him. Plus, Bradford had a hell of a season that no one talks about:

He threw for almost 4,000 yards, 20(ish) tds, and like 5 interceptions. I think he also set some record for highest completion percentage. The reason the vikings sucked were not because of him. They sucked because of their OL and they had no viable rb once AP went down.

And AP is trying to play for the Cowboys or Texans. He lives just north of Houston.
02-10-2017, 10:21 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by msstate7

A healthy romo is much better than you give him credit for. In '14, he put up a qb rating of 113.2, which was the 7th best for a season ever and better than Brady's this year. He has a career qb rating of 97.1 which is 4th all time in NFL history. Health is a major concern though

And he's won two playoff games.

People are acting as though adding Romo can take these teams to championship level, which is kind of crazy. If Houston got him (and they definitely won't have to give up Watt to get him, that's crazy talk), you could make an argument they're a contender. Anybody else, that's not happening.
02-10-2017, 10:22 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

I agree. Watt has also stated publicly that he may not be that far away from retirement.

I Definitely think that this is the route the Cowboys should go though, but just for a more long term prospect. Von Miller Perhaps ?

Goodness, people. The Cowboys are not getting one of the top handful of players in all of football for Tony Romo.
02-10-2017, 10:30 AM
HereComesTheSpiral

It would take Romo and half of the OL to get Watt. Whitney Mercilus would be the person I would try to get in a trade.
02-10-2017, 10:32 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

That's just it, they can't. His contract is terrible for a team trading for him. Especially considering you know that they have to cut him anyway. They won't get any decent compensation for him at his age, injuries and salary cap structure age. And shouldn't.

Is there not an equivalent defensive player somewhere out there? Somebody slightly pass their prime and/or injury prone, with a bad contract, but that still can offer a lot of value, even if there is some risk/reward to go with it?

Or hell, isn't there a team with an overpaid player that needs to be cut? Package that player with some mid round draft picks and trade Dallas for Romo and some later round draft picks? Seems like enough teams need a QB that there would be a mutually beneficial trade to be made somewhere.
02-10-2017, 10:33 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral

It would take Romo and half of the OL to get Watt. Whitney Mercilus would be the person I would try to get in a trade.

Even that is likely a dream scenario. Romo is old, decrepit, and owed a lot of money. The Cowboys are basically just looking to dump his salary. Anything they get back is gravy. I'd guess a 3rd round pick is about the best they could do.
02-10-2017, 10:34 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Is there not an equivalent defensive player somewhere out there? Somebody slightly pass their prime and/or injury prone, with a bad contract, but that still can offer a lot of value, even if there is some risk/reward to go with it?

Or hell, isn't there a team with an overpaid player that needs to be cut? Package that player with some mid round draft picks and trade Dallas for Romo and some later round draft picks? Seems like enough teams need a QB that there would be a mutually beneficial trade to be made somewhere.

The Cowboys want the contract off the books. Trading for a similarly overpaid player does them no good.
02-10-2017, 10:35 AM
dogshiek

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Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral

It would take Romo and half of the OL to get Watt. Whitney Mercilus would be the person I would try to get in a trade.

Romo reminds me of a quote of Sean Peyton about Reggie bush. "He's brittle ".
02-10-2017, 11:04 AM
Steakonastick

If the Texans traded watt to the cowboys it would be for Dak and somebody else not romo. Romo will get traded for about a fifth round pick just to get him off the payroll.
02-10-2017, 11:17 AM
louisvilledawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I only watched the Vikings a few times this year and Bradford wasn't very impressive, so his stats surprise me. Honestly though, that just tells me romo would put up monster numbers there bc Bradford isn't in the same ballpark with a healthy romo imo

Completely agree - I just know it won't happen.

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