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12-31-2016, 01:16 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Yup. If Geoff Collins just got the Temple job, I fully expect Aranda to get a similar type job next year.

As for Canada, if he turns around LSU's offense, he's going to be Lane Kiffin without the baggage. Which means he'll be a head coach within a year or two. I just see LSU being an unstable situation for Eddy O. His greatest skill at LSU will have to be his hiring ability.

Well if he's turning coordinators into HCs and continuing to recruit big time, I think getting the best coordinators could be pretty easy
12-31-2016, 01:37 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Not sure about that. Pretty sure GT had both Megatron and Demaryius Thomas as WRs, while running the triple option. Granted they changed after Johnson was on campus, but they've produced some high quality WRs running the option.

They are also right in the middle of the ATL and that helps recruit a few players also.
12-31-2016, 01:39 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Yup. If Geoff Collins just got the Temple job, I fully expect Aranda to get a similar type job next year.

As for Canada, if he turns around LSU's offense, he's going to be Lane Kiffin without the baggage. Which means he'll be a head coach within a year or two. I just see LSU being an unstable situation for Eddy O. His greatest skill at LSU will have to be his hiring ability.

And thats fine. When they are both successful- LSU will have an easy time replacing them with another top coordinator. They have the money to pay and its easy to recruit there.

They have to roll with Etling/Harris one more year- while they bring more QB talent in. With their OL and WR talent- plus Guice- they will score enough most nights to win games in 2017. Hell, if Etling starts the season at QB- they end up 9-2 instead of 7-4
12-31-2016, 02:00 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

And thats fine. When they are both successful- LSU will have an easy time replacing them with another top coordinator. They have the money to pay and its easy to recruit there.

They have to roll with Etling/Harris one more year- while they bring more QB talent in. With their OL and WR talent- plus Guice- they will score enough most nights to win games in 2017. Hell, if Etling starts the season at QB- they end up 9-2 instead of 7-4

Coach O already lost out on the top QB in Louisiana this year.
12-31-2016, 02:09 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This is why Stoops will never turn the corner. Doesn't have the temperament

Keith Farmer
‏@KeithFarmer18
Report: At half Coach Stoops kicked the ref locker room door. Knocked over a Gatorade cooler. They had to pull him back to the locker room.

Meanwhile, he punted on 4th and 6, down 17 points on the opponents 36 yard line. What an idiot these college coaches are..except you Pat Fitzgerald.
12-31-2016, 02:18 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

LSU isn't such an amazing job. They were never that great before Saban, and their decline will be accelerated now.

For someone who cites historical records of MSU baseball all the time, and claims we are not a top 5 program (which i happen to agree with) you certainly have to see that LSU really isn't a historic football power. Now they have hired a buffoon to run the program. I do not see a bright future for the Tigers.

However, I do think Canada is a good coordinator
12-31-2016, 02:23 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

LSU isn't such an amazing job. They were never that great before Saban, and their decline will be accelerated now.

Wow, this is just incredible. Do you really feel that way? I need to give up message boards.
12-31-2016, 02:28 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Wow, this is just incredible. Do you really feel that way? I need to give up message boards.

Yes I do. I don't get why people think LSU is so unstoppable.
12-31-2016, 02:33 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Yes I do. I don't get why people think LSU is so unstoppable.

I don't think they're unstoppable and I don't think winning big is a given for them, but they do have more potential than 95% of college football teams. They have money, great fans, facilities, and a great recruiting base with no in-state rival
12-31-2016, 02:45 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Coach O already lost out on the top QB in Louisiana this year.

depends on the service- Narcisse is rated higher on some

I think both will be outstanding players
12-31-2016, 02:47 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't think they're unstoppable and I don't think winning big is a given for them, but they do have more potential than 95% of college football teams. They have money, great fans, facilities, and a great recruiting base with no in-state rival

I agree with you. They have potential, but they always have had this potential and really didn't do much with it until Saban got there. I think it is a good job, but certainly not the best like some on this board claim it to be. For example, I think Tennessee is a pretty comparable job to LSU, but no one on the this board thinks they are worth a crap. LSU just gets a level of respect that I do not think is deserved.
12-31-2016, 02:48 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Yes I do. I don't get why people think LSU is so unstoppable.

They recruit top 6-7 in the country
They have one of the country's top DC'
They now have a competent OC and have rid themselves of Miles/Cam 1990's offense
O will have those SOB's playing hard every week
12-31-2016, 02:54 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

I agree with you. They have potential, but they always have had this potential and really didn't do much with it until Saban got there. I think it is a good job, but certainly not the best like some on this board claim it to be. For example, I think Tennessee is a pretty comparable job to LSU, but no one on the this board thinks they are worth a crap. LSU just gets a level of respect that I do not think is deserved.

B/C there is no comparison between the talent in the state of LA and the talent in TN. And almost every kid in LA grows up dreaming about becoming a Tiger. Then they go to TX, MS, or almost anywhere to finish up their class with 4 star plus talent. The LSU job is easily a Top 5 job, and probably a Top 3 job.
12-31-2016, 02:56 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

I agree with you. They have potential, but they always have had this potential and really didn't do much with it until Saban got there. I think it is a good job, but certainly not the best like some on this board claim it to be. For example, I think Tennessee is a pretty comparable job to LSU, but no one on the this board thinks they are worth a crap. LSU just gets a level of respect that I do not think is deserved.

I don't think LSU & Tennessee are anywhere near being the same job.

LSU has pronounced recruiting advantages over Tennessee & equal fan support.

LSU is the best job in the SEC IMO. I believe from a geographical sense it's easier to acquire talent at LSU than all other schools in the country except maybe USC & Ohio State.

At Alabama, FSU, Texas, Florida, Georgia,etc, you have to battle tons of other local programs to get talent, &, in Bama's case, you have to recruit nationally to compete at an elite level. At LSU you don't.

Now a coach like Saban & Fisher off set LSU's advantage, but, if FSU, Bama, LSU, Florida, & Georgia all had average coaches, I think LSU would be the best team.
12-31-2016, 02:58 PM
lamont

Bama is the best job in the SEC

Then I'd say LSU with Florida and Georgia close behind. Then comes Auburn and A&M
12-31-2016, 03:02 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Bama is the best job in the SEC

Then I'd say LSU with Florida and Georgia close behind. Then comes Auburn and A&M

It's a difficult comparison because Alabama has had far greater coaches than LSU. I just think at the core, it's more difficult at Bama because you are always having to beat someone out for players. At LSU, for 3/4 of your recruiting class, you don't have to beat anyone out.

It's a good debate.
12-31-2016, 03:02 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Bama is the best job in the SEC

Then I'd say LSU with Florida and Georgia close behind. Then comes Auburn and A&M

I think Florida is the best job
12-31-2016, 03:10 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

B/C there is no comparison between the talent in the state of LA and the talent in TN. And almost every kid in LA grows up dreaming about becoming a Tiger. Then they go to TX, MS, or almost anywhere to finish up their class with 4 star plus talent. The LSU job is easily a Top 5 job, and probably a Top 3 job.

And Bruce's point is that LSU - like a lot of schools- is one bad hire away from being back as an also-ran in the SEC. It may have all of those perceived advantages as power school, but until Saban they were not able to put all those pieces together for more than a 2-3 year period.

If Farmer Fran goes 8-4, 8-4, 7-5 and gets fired, LSU will have gone 6 years since a 10 win season - which means they will be recruiting kids who don't know them as a power school but as an also ran. It can start a spiral of mediocrity- especially if say Texas, AU or another school that recruits LA heavy replaces LSU as a "power" winning 10+ every year.
12-31-2016, 03:24 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

They recruit top 6-7 in the country
They have one of the country's top DC'
They now have a competent OC and have rid themselves of Miles/Cam 1990's offense
O will have those SOB's playing hard every week

I seem to remember seeing something similar to this before the season about LSU.

"9 NFL draft picks on D"
"#1 overall pick at RB"
"Blah Blah Blah"

But what really happened was another 4 loss season
Another loss to Saban
Another non Big 6 bowl
and a fired coach replaced by Ogeron
12-31-2016, 03:27 PM
THE Bruce Dickinson

Every kid in LA does not dreaming of playing for LSU. For example take our current QB recruit

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