Rosebowl Say Ole Miss has A Player That Lied to NCAA

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10-05-2016, 01:06 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Do you or anyone have an example of a player caught lying to the NCAA? I know coaches get show causes, but not sure about players

Dez Bryant

http://www.espn.com/college-football...ory?id=4540282
10-05-2016, 01:07 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

it's overflowing and there is enough for everyone!! I love it!
10-05-2016, 01:09 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Do you or anyone have an example of a player caught lying to the NCAA? I know coaches get show causes, but not sure about players

Dez Bryant missed his entire senior year for lying to the NCAA about something that ultimately wasn't even a violation. He just afraid it was so he lied.
10-05-2016, 01:10 PM
Beaver

Hmmmm. Someone should ask Freeze about this. He says he knows everything so...
10-05-2016, 01:16 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

please let this be true!!
10-05-2016, 01:18 PM
Sacrifice

OM has become an embarrassment to the entire SEC at this point, Just lie after lie. Little brother just couldn't take being little brother anymore.
10-05-2016, 01:45 PM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Do you or anyone have an example of a player caught lying to the NCAA? I know coaches get show causes, but not sure about players

Biggest thing they ever got on Renardo Sidney was lying. He lost a little playing time.
10-05-2016, 01:53 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

At this point the NCAA is probably frustrated as hell that every stone they turn over has another violation under it. I think the chances of a death penalty-like punishment are growing higher by the day.

The NCAA just may throw their hands up, say F* It!, and nuke them from orbit and be done with it.

That's what we talked about a few weeks back, that the NCAA's new penalty structure (circa 2013) yielding ~30 schollie reductions may NOT be enough because it's not 8 Level I's but rather 8 Level I violations many times over during a number of years (60+ violations if I remember correctly).

Again, this case may have the NCAA not knowing what to do because they never thought a program could push the boundaries like TCUN has, and may force the NCAA's hand at SMU-type penalties because they have no choice especially if they can't get to the finish line / stopping point as TCUN is the gift that keeps on giving and the Network keeps doing work.
10-05-2016, 01:55 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by mic

AJ Brown. I will let the cat out of the bag... That's what I have been told...

That would be amazing. **** that guy
10-05-2016, 01:55 PM
msstate7

Did rosebowl indicate when this lie was discovered? Unless it was just discovered, you gotta figure the player isn't aj. Surely om wouldn't play a player they know will be ruled ineligible. At least, I don't think they would
10-05-2016, 01:56 PM
Liverpooldawg

The NCAA just needs to throw a big normal penalty out there and then stay in Oxford. I seriously doubt they are going to stop what they are doing. Y'all need to remember it was the SECOND go around that really nailed SMU.
10-05-2016, 01:57 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Sacrifice

OM has become an embarrassment to the entire SEC at this point, Just lie after lie. Little brother just couldn't take being little brother anymore.

Here's the thing though. They really aren't yet because no one wants to cover the story or talk about it. Ole Miss has been praised this year by Bo Bounds, Sallee, Finebaum, and other national media. The instate news outlets aren't even investigating it while praising OM's WRs.

As of now, the national perception is that Ole Miss is a good program and team. What's embarrassing is that people in the know are allowing what should be an embarrassment, to become a suck off fest.

All you hear on Bo Bounds and other shows is how Freeze does things right while Mullen while Mullen does things wrong, when in fact it's just the opposite. MSU only looks like a poor recruiter because Ole Miss is cheating. Go through OM's roster and tell which of the players would be on our team if they weren't bought off. Our recruiting would've looked significantly better.
10-05-2016, 02:14 PM
Maroonthirteen

You would think too. Lying to the NCAA about recruiting violations is exponentially worse than lying about visiting Deon Sanders. The player should be ruled ineligible for AT LEAST a year and the school should have to vacate all wins in which the player participated.

Death penalty!!! OR....80 over 4 years. Make them suffer.
10-05-2016, 02:29 PM
spbdawg

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10-05-2016, 02:33 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by spbdawg

This is why I, and others, believe the new enforcement model has been/is being challenged in ways never contemplated. By the book, they should lose 150-300 schollies (at 49 Level I violations per my read) but I know they won't do that.

If there's a mid-line between their self-imposed penalties and the worst case scenario (triple digit scholly losses), it sure seems the final penalties will be somewhere between this mid-line and the worst case scenario. That seems like a guarantee. 100 over 10 would take 13-15 years to recover from.

Agree. The NCAA has a real pickle here.

It's almost like they need an automatic death penalty for two years if calculated scholarship losses go over 60 or so.

So once you objectively cleared 60 schollies per the book, instead of the NCAA giving you a 150 scholarship reduction, they would just impose a 2 year death penalty.
10-05-2016, 02:36 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Here's the thing though. They really aren't yet because no one wants to cover the story or talk about it. Ole Miss has been praised this year by Bo Bounds, Sallee, Finebaum, and other national media. The instate news outlets aren't even investigating it while praising OM's WRs.

As of now, the national perception is that Ole Miss is a good program and team. What's embarrassing is that people in the know are allowing what should be an embarrassment, to become a suck off fest.

All you hear on Bo Bounds and other shows is how Freeze does things right while Mullen while Mullen does things wrong, when in fact it's just the opposite. MSU only looks like a poor recruiter because Ole Miss is cheating. Go through OM's roster and tell which of the players would be on our team if they weren't bought off. Our recruiting would've looked significantly better.

Preach!

I heard Bo call Freeze an "elite recruiter" a couple of weeks ago. After I laughed my ass off I turned the channel back to John Boy and Billy.
10-05-2016, 02:38 PM
DudyDawg

Any more info than "someone lied"? What was lied about? Any info more concrete like that? Or are we just taking it at face value
10-05-2016, 02:45 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

Any more info than "someone lied"? What was lied about? Any info more concrete like that? Or are we just taking it at face value

When it comes to lying to the NCAA, I don't think it really matters what it's about... it's serious
10-05-2016, 02:47 PM
thf24

Precedent says they get much angrier at you and punish you much more harshly for lying to them than for the the rule you broke itself. Doesn't matter what the lying was about, the lying period is significant.
10-05-2016, 02:49 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Agree. The NCAA has a real pickle here.

It's almost like they need an automatic death penalty for two years if calculated scholarship losses go over 60 or so.

So once you objectively cleared 60 schollies per the book, instead of the NCAA giving you a 150 scholarship reduction, they would just impose a 2 year death penalty.

I say spank dem biatches!!! C'mon NCAA, you can do itttttt!!!!!

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