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I suppose I agree with Croom. For one thing, I live in Alabama and have to put up with Tide fans daily (like most of you guys do the Bears/Bear fans). But more important, beating Alabama is a more meaningful thing to do ... they're good. The Bears are irrelevant most of the time, but they're trying to achieve relevancy by cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Why is that contradictory? Dan still has to beat them and it's not like they were that much better than us. It's his job to figure out how to beat them like starting with maybe having someone cover their tight end.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The thing that bothers me the most about it is Dan's attitude which seems to be "I don't care". And if the rumors are true about him giving up because of their cheating that's just as bad because that's being a bitch.
Actually Croom never lost to Ole Miss in Starkville. Let that sink in for a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
On the flip side he never won at Ole Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
True but I can tolerate that a lot more than losing in Starkville. The home team has won over 70% of the time since 1991.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Probably one reason losing to them doesn't bother me any more than losing to anybody else is that, when I was in school, we never beat them. It was just a given we would lose. That was back just after their glory days.
:rolleyes: C'mon, mane!Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Mstate7 is right....We can't put that much importance on beating Ole Miss while also saying OM is about to get hammered for buying great players. I do agree that the preparation and effort in our last few egg bowl's has been pathetic though, and that is more concerning to me than whether we won or lost against a bunch of bought players.
When it's time for Mullen to go, we'll know it. That time isn't right now, and we sure as hell don't need to let Ole Miss's cheating beat us on AND off the field by causing us to fire our best coach ever due to games vs their soon to be under probation program. Think people.
I think om's cheating really gave them the upper hand last season and this season. In '14 though, we blew it and Dan deserves the lion's share of the blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I agree. I just wish people would realize that yes, losing to OM sucks...but we are not a reloading program, and OM is about to go into the shitter with probation...so is losing to a heavily cheating program really worth changing the entire landscape of our program and potentially sending us back to Croom or Orgeron-ish years?? No thanks. I'll take 6-8 wins per year, with 9-10 every 4 or 5 years, and 5 wins every 7-8 years or so. All day & twice on Sunday's.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Now if we go 5-7 this year and then follow it with 5-7....that's a different story. We will never recruit at a high enough level to simply reload. Never. So we will have to accept the occasional shitburger season. OM won't ever recruit well enough to reload either....Legally.
Totally agree Clint, like the saying goes, "We see the enemy and the enemy is us"! "We eat our own"Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
If winning is so damn easy please explain to me why after 100 years of football haven't we won more games? Mullen has done more in 8 years than most have done in the history of football at Msu.
The question should be is Dan doing the best he can do and if not what is he doing to fix it? Just because we have a bad history in general doesn't mean we should tolerate mediocrity because of good things done in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
If he goes 6-6 next year he should be fired no matter what. Man our fan base loves mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
IF we can make a change this offseason we can possibly get someone that can recruit and salvage this class and get us off to a great start next year just as Ole Miss is going on probation at the same time generating excitement and not allowing Ole Miss fans the solace of "well MSU sucks too" for the first year of their probation.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
We should be proactive and not wait too see if Dan can turn it around especially when his body language says I don't care. And I will say if Dan did show that he cared I probably would be Ok with another year but generally when people don't care it's extrmely rare that they suddenly start caring again.
Winning seasons should be easier in today's world. You schedule 4 OOC cupcakes( a little harder with the P5 now required and being upset as we were this year), beat the two hopefully bad SEC East teams (which always includes KY), and win a couple of tossup games with equally talented West foes (Arky, Auburn maybe). Still need to be competitive with LSU, aTm, and Bama and beat them every once in a while to get to the next level. UNM should be more easily beaten IF the NCAA hammer ever falls. Please, have the team ready for every game. I don't feel this was case with Bama or UNM the past two years.
It's insane. It's not like there aren't multiple examples of MSU waiting too long out there. We tend to wait until the dumpster is engulfed and on fire before going "ok I think coach x is done now". And then we wonder why we can't hire anyone because the previous coach was allowed to recruit shittily for four years trying to turn the thing around before anyone did anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
We haven't been ready for anyone this year other than South Carolina so far. And even then we took our foot off the gas in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
C'mon Todd, you are on a witch hunt! Let the games play out, Dan has done way more good than bad! Geez! You can't find anything positive to say, plus you are like a broken record with the negative comments. You must be on the damn payroll for the agenda. Surely you aren't correct with every negative comment about Dan. Dan hasn't quit, he has made mistakes, I don't think Dan has quit, that would be crazy for a coach who wants out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Obviously you haven't looked into our history very well. How many winning coaches have we had over 100 years of football. If winning is so easy at Msu I would think we would have had a much better won/lost record, 100 plus years Todd!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Dan has made "mistakes"? Hope he hasn't been hanging around with "Mr. Mistake" Freeze! LOL