David Murray on OOB

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

Thinking about new potential coaches is a lot more fun than thinking about the loss to South Alabama. Mullen can definitely redeem himself it just doesn't look very promising right now.

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Haha... That's true. I do think we should give him game 2 before naming his replacement though

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Originally Posted by civildawg

I know for a 100% fact that money will not be an issue on the buy out if we were to tank and fire him. This came from the horses mouth.

I want to add that it is a shame that a veteran journalist that has been in the program for decades does not have the correct info and goes on a statewide radio show saying a lie but a regular joe like me does.

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LMAO

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

This. If we fired him today we'd owe him roughly $12 million. Doesn't make sense to pay a guy $12 million to go away after 7 straight winning seasons. Next year is a different story.

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LSU said the same thing...

If not for the current state of financial affairs in LA, that ~$30 Mil check woulda been scratched out with the quickness and the Tiger fanbase wouldn't still be on suicide watch....

Gawd, I hope Les goes 12-2 this year...

He lost one game.

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

This. If we fired him today we'd owe him roughly $12 million. Doesn't make sense to pay a guy $12 million to go away after 7 straight winning seasons. Next year is a different story.

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Absolutely on point.

To hell with the buyout. Why not put the money into the network... :confused:

Our fanbase is clueless on most things. Mullen isn't going anywhere during this season and the coaching search stuff is silly. If he wins five games or so, the fans will be pissed, but he will be back unless he finds another job. Bo Bounds is one of the most uninformed guys there is. He talks like he has sources, but it is only what he reads from the CL site. The Scout bunch are jokes and if not for Rosebowl finally coming out of his Rip Van Winkle slumber and having a source on the UM investigation, they would still be considered the armpits they are in MSU coverage.

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Originally Posted by StoneDawg

He lost one game.

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We've only played one game. Looking at 100% of the sample, most people are convinced his team isn't that good.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

What the hell happened in the off season that you keep referring to??

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Exactly I wanna know what this guy knows

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Our fanbase is clueless on most things. Mullen isn't going anywhere during this season and the coaching search stuff is silly. If he wins five games or so, the fans will be pissed, but he will be back unless he finds another job. Bo Bounds is one of the most uninformed guys there is. He talks like he has sources, but it is only what he reads from the CL site. The Scout bunch are jokes and if not for Rosebowl finally coming out of his Rip Van Winkle slumber and having a source on the UM investigation, they would still be considered the armpits they are in MSU coverage.

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Who the Hell is going to hire him for $4.5 million per year? Dan isn't going anywhere.

If he wants out, let him do what a lot of regular folks are doing---take a paycut. But he isn't going anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

This. If we fired him today we'd owe him roughly $12 million. Doesn't make sense to pay a guy $12 million to go away after 7 straight winning seasons. Next year is a different story.

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If he didn't get an extension last year wouldn't we only owe him for 2 years after this one? He would only have a 3 year deal coming into this year or am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

If he didn't get an extension last year wouldn't we only owe him for 2 years after this one? He would only have a 3 year deal coming into this year or am I missing something?

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Exactly. It's around 6-7 million come December- not 12. 2 years left after this season

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I do find it interesting how adamant & confident Bo is about how Mullen is coaching for his job the rest of the season.

The reason I say this is because Bo is usually measured on these types of things & has in the past called it ludicrous to think Mullen's job wasn't safe.

It's clear to me that Bo must have good sources on this & has been talking to some big boosters that David Murray probably doesn't have access to.

I also think it's important to remember that Mullen's job is not on the line due to what happened Saturday. Mullen's job is on the line due to looking for jobs every off season, not recruiting well, losing recruiting in the Golden Triangle, losing to Ole Miss 2 straight, etc.... it's accumulative.

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Exactly. Mullen has been building this shit show instead a focused, disciplined team of highly recruited players. If this were a play we'd be going into the third and final act.

And Bo was saying in early August we'd be lucky to get 6 wins and I thought he was full of shit. He has good sources who have evaluated the team and sources who are close to the Mullen situation. As he said yesterday 4-8 gets you fired at MSU these days not a pat on the back and a "we'll get 'em next year coach."

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Originally Posted by StoneDawg

He lost one game.

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To a really shitty Sunbelt team that was one of the worst teams vs the run last year and was missing 3 of their D-line starters, and in a game that wasn't a fluke. They beat us.

Not all losses are the same.

On top of that...Dan's post-game communication has been anything but encouraging...anything but indicative of a man accepting his own personal responsibility, with promises of getting it fixed.

As has been discussed as nauseum, Dan was already on thin ice due to his constant apparent willingness to, "whore himself out" every year, which has damaged our recruiting efforts in that time of our history that should have been the stepping-stone, [I]the[I] springboard to further our program...coming off several weeks of #1 ranking.

Stop and think about how rare that was for us. In 115 years of football, we have never been close to that. Yes, Dan was instrumental in getting us there, but his actions have also clearly stunted our ability to fully capitalize on that success via recruiting.

That may well have been our one-shot in our lifetime, possibly ever to take that huge step forward toward becoming a powerhouse. We've seen multiple signs of that slipping away. The loss to USA looks like it might be the final nail-in-the-coffin of that dream.

So no...it is not just that he "lost one game".

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

To a really shitty Sunbelt team that was one of the worst teams vs the run last year and was missing 3 of their D-line starters, and in a game that wasn't a fluke. They beat us.

Not all losses are the same.

On top of that...Dan's post-game communication has been anything but encouraging...anything but indicative of a man accepting his own personal responsibility, with promises of getting it fixed.

As has been discussed as nauseum, Dan was already on thin ice due to his constant apparent willingness to, "whore himself out" every year, which has damaged our recruiting efforts in that time of our history that should have been the stepping-stone, [I]the[I] springboard to further our program...coming off several weeks of #1 ranking.

Stop and think about how rare that was for us. In 115 years of football, we have never been close to that. Yes, Dan was instrumental in getting us there, but his actions have also clearly stunted our ability to fully capitalize on that success via recruiting.

That may well have been our one-shot in our lifetime, possibly ever to take that huge step forward toward becoming a powerhouse. We've seen multiple signs of that slipping away. The loss to USA looks like it might be the final nail-in-the-coffin of that dream.

So no...it is not just that he "lost one game".

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If Mullen has a bad record this season and we get rid of him that will be a sign that we have come a long way as a program recently.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

As has been discussed as nauseum, Dan was already on thin ice due to his constant apparent willingness to, "whore himself out" every year, which has damaged our recruiting efforts in that time of our history that should have been the stepping-stone, [I]the[I] springboard to further our program...coming off several weeks of #1 ranking.

Stop and think about how rare that was for us. In 115 years of football, we have never been close to that. Yes, Dan was instrumental in getting us there, but his actions have also clearly stunted our ability to fully capitalize on that success via recruiting.

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I think in Dan's mind he was #1 not the team. Instead of using that #1 ranking to take the next step for the team he used it to take the next step for himself.

I remember these exact same discussuons Croom's last season. "He's not going anywhere", "he will get another year", etc. Lol. Same song, different verse. If Dan wins 3 games and gets blown out yet again to Ole Miss, bye, bye. He gone.

Much like Croom it could be a blow out @ Ole Miss that does it.

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Exactly. It's around 6-7 million come December- not 12. 2 years left after this season

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Right. I don't understand some folks math on here.