OK I will go ahead and ask

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Ok, if your going to make this statement, you have tell us which defenses fall into the "good" category.

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Well ... not all of these were good defenses last year but ... LSU 21, Aub 17, TAM 17, Bama 6 (with exception of 2014, never more than 10 against Bama), OM 28 (game over at half tho).

2014 - Ark 17, Bama 20, OM 17.

Just saying ... it ain't all the D's fault. Sometimes the D doesn't have a good day. Same can be said for the O.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Well ... not all of these were good defenses last year but ... LSU 21, Aub 17, TAM 17, Bama 6 (with exception of 2014, never more than 10 against Bama), OM 28 (game over at half tho).

2014 - Ark 17, Bama 20, OM 17.

Just saying ... it ain't all the D's fault. Sometimes the D doesn't have a good day. Same can be said for the O.

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That was last year, but throughout Mullen's tenure at MSU, we've really only had trouble scoring against 1 team & that 1 team is blown up into "Mullen can't score against good defenses."

IMO, 17 points isn't a great offensive output, but it's not being shut down either. Especially when you consider the blown opportunities last year against Texas A&M. We should've scored about 30 in that game. Against Auburn, we went conservative because they couldn't score, & against Ole Miss, we didn't have trouble scoring, it's just that Dak fumbled & threw a pick 6 in the first half.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

That was last year, but throughout Mullen's tenure at MSU, we've really only had trouble scoring against 1 team & that 1 team is blown up into "Mullen can't score against good defenses."

IMO, 17 points isn't a great offensive output, but it's not being shut down either. Especially when you consider the blown opportunities last year against Texas A&M. We should've scored about 30 in that game. Against Auburn, we went conservative because they couldn't score, & against Ole Miss, we didn't have trouble scoring, it's just that Dak fumbled & threw a pick 6 in the first half.

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We also scored over 30, on the road, in a monsoon, against the second best defense in the league last year.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Yeah, I agree 166.

Diaz leaving for Texas. Understandable.
Mullen hiring Diaz again...head scratching. However it says to me that Mullen didn't have much interest in the job from more qualified candidates.

Diaz leaving for Miami again, understandable but the mistake was hiring him back.

Regardless, if Sirmon leaves after 1 year, we know where the main problem is. With that said, State should keep Mullen as long as he wants to be here.

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More qualified candidates? Like Sirmon?? Ha! That's funny stuff.

Just as I don't get the meltdown about the offense before a ball is snapped I also don't get the "defensive upgrade" talk before a ball is snapped. Why don't we wait and see what they actually do first?

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Did I miss a game? Let's see how we look in about five days.

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You're the biggest emotional freak show of all.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

That was last year, but throughout Mullen's tenure at MSU, we've really only had trouble scoring against 1 team & that 1 team is blown up into "Mullen can't score against good defenses."

IMO, 17 points isn't a great offensive output, but it's not being shut down either. Especially when you consider the blown opportunities last year against Texas A&M. We should've scored about 30 in that game. Against Auburn, we went conservative because they couldn't score, & against Ole Miss, we didn't have trouble scoring, it's just that Dak fumbled & threw a pick 6 in the first half.

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Doesn't matter to me much but this is what I'm basing my opinion on:

2010 ? Aub 14, LSU 7, FL 10, Bama 10
2011 ? LSU 6, Ga 10, UAB 21, USCe 12, Bama 7, Ark 17
2012 ? Bama 7, TAM 13, Aub 17, OM 24, Northwestern 20
2013 ? Ok St 3, Aub 20, Bowling Green 21, USCe 16, Bama 7, OM 17

By my count I count no less than 4 games each year with 20 or fewer points. This is why I would prefer Mullen not throw DCs (especially pretty decent ones) under the bus.