You've been on top of Malik news, so I believe he'll be a hilltopperQuote:
Originally Posted by Madisonmd
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You've been on top of Malik news, so I believe he'll be a hilltopperQuote:
Originally Posted by Madisonmd
What the hell, everyone here thought his best chance to get in nba, They tried it and he couldn't be one against SEC competition. Maybe a year on the practice court and then a year under Stansbury and wky competition and he could be. Lets hope so.
We have had some pretty good point guards under Stansbury, I don't think anyone can deny that.
More like Jamont Gordon ... last 3 minutes dribble around, never pass, and miss every shot you take to win game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
From listening to Coach Howland be interviewed by Andy Katz the other day, you get the feeling that Coach Howland is more relieved that Malik isn't coming back. Horatio, in the long run, will ruin Malik's career. The only way Malik could have helped this team is come in and improve and do what is best for the team and by doing so would have helped himself. Howland himself has said many times the most improvement you see from a player is between their freshman and sophomore years. He would have been a great SG for us with Ready and Q at the PG and SF positions respectively. Howland would have gotten him to the first round of the draft next year. It's a shame he had to take this career path all in the name of immaturity and a misguided father.
And yet Stansbury has not guided a single one of them to the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
I'll assume you are right since you have been on top of this. If so, this will turn some heads nationally and disappoint a lot of Kansas and NCSU fans who are lighting up Twitter like Malik is the next coming of Lebron. This will also confirm just how much control Horatio has in his kid's career and will make me continue to shake my head. Only an idiot would think Stansbury can prepare a player better then Howland for the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madisonmd
I don't remember anyone ever saying that they had NBA talent coming in and being denied the coaching to become one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Anyway, I hope if Stans wants him, he gets him. And it will stop all that conversation that Horatio would never want him to play for Stansbury. I knew for a fact that wasn't so, when it was going on.
The problem Malik has with that statement is the "with Q" part.Quote:
Originally Posted by archdog
That was all C34. I like Coach Stansbury but he doesn't have a track record for getting kids to the NBA. Yeah, if this does happen, the mantra that Horatio didn't want Malik to play for him would go out the window. Also, makes you wonder about Hood as well if he was really gone regardless as his main reason for leaving was we got rid of Stansbury.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Looks like we are in agreement. However all the ones with NBA potential opted to go straight to the pros. We did have Lawrence Roberts , who I thought would have a real chance and did go, just didn't stick. No fault of Stansbury.
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Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I hope Stansbury does get him. Like I said, I never disliked Stans and actually liked him as a coach and person. However, when comparing him to Howland there is no comparison. Coach Howland is tons better in all facets. I am happy where our program is. Wish nothing but the best for Stansbury and Malik!Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Bottom line, Malik had not earned the right to be throwing around ultimatums. After his season last year, his options were to come in and prove he wasn't all hype. He chose not to take that route (probably due to his Dad), and I applaud Howland for not bowing down to a kid and his Dad that have yet to prove anything beyond a Jackson HS level. Horatio is trying to help his son..I get that...but he's going to end up looking back in a few years and realizing the one thing that prevented Malik from reaching his ultimate goals...was Horatio
The very fact that they are blaming Howland for how their season went and the claim we "didn't use him right" tells you all you need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
In head to head play Stans beat Ben. Just saying.
Really? You're really going to go there. Oh you mean the under achieving team (us) who was preseason ranked #18 that lost to Rider to start the season meanwhile UCLA was unranked at the time. We had much more talent on our team then UCLA did at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
The funny thing is, they are so desperate to make Malik into a PG and Howland developing the best all around PG in the league since Magic Johnson. I realize Malik probably doesn't have Westbrook's game but Howland has proven he can develop a lot of different "types" of PG. Howland was probably honest with them in saying that it would be a lot of work to get Malik to be a NBA starting PG and his quickest way was as a 3 pt specialist SG. He might could develop his ball handling but Q was on a different level than Malik is almost every aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
I applaud Howland not bowing down to pressure and let Malik develop as a PG when it cost the team wins. It was pretty obvious that Ready is a lot better at the point and he even improved his defense as the year went on. Peters looks like he is closer to a NBA point than Malik right now so benching him just so Malik could develop isn't fair to Peters.
Crooms beat Saban once tooQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Eastern Kentucky and Oral Roberts also beat Cohen's MSU team this year. I don't think anyone would trade Cohen for either of those coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Those three Final Fours he took us to, were awesome, too!Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Wait, those were Elite Eights?
No? Sweet Sixteens, right?
Awe, those trips only made it to the 2nd round...
When Rick had our boys in New York, in the NIT Final Four (06-07), Howland had his in Atlanta, for the REAL Final Four for the 2nd of 3 straight.
I like Stans. But there is absolutely no comparison.
#JustSayin
Yeah I would take Bost over Malik all day. Particularly if we are talking about as a PG. Hell, I would rather have Jamont as my PG than Malik.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU