They would say it was worth it if they only won 1 game. That's just how they are which is why they should be put out of everybody's misery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
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They would say it was worth it if they only won 1 game. That's just how they are which is why they should be put out of everybody's misery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Orgeron and USC basically did the same things with their players. And Bush screwed over one of the guys to get caught. Let's don't act like that was a once in a lifetime thing that happened
I saw that too, but the situations aren't the same (although the punishments may end up being very similar). USC had almost ten years of unprecedented success. They played in 7 BCS bowls, played for a national championship, and had a Heisman trophy winner. Ole Miss? Three years of success - Birmingham Bowl, Peach Bowl, and one BCS-level bowl (Sugar) in a year that they lost to Memphis and Arkansas and didn't win their division. I don't think Ole Miss has accomplished anything that would make it "worth it." I don't see them being as good this year as they were last year, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
If true, the best part to me is the poor guy putting up the money and "advising" Tunsil for 3 years, ONLY to have Freeze's own agent swoop in an reap all the rewards at the end. It's beautiful.
What a screwing that guy took!!
I can hear Freeze telling Sexton :"Look, you don't have to get involved in the dirt. You don't have to mixed up in NCAA violations, if it happens, nothing like that. We'll get some patsy to do that...so we can we get this great player on campus. That guy is on the hook if things go wrong, but if things work out, you get to represent the best players in the draft."
If I'm the patsy, I'm singing to the NCAA, or at least anonymously leaking it.
Hey, maybe this is C34's source.
Ill tell you who...an OM person that knows Hugh and is close to the program. Think about it.........every thing Hugh has touched has turned gold...so far. The man found a kid on the street that he wanted to be a lineman at his school. Freeze convinced a school and a sponsor family to take this kid in. When the kid had terrible grades, no parents and shown no interest in continuing with school or football. Freeze made all that happen and turned that load of BS into a damn movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by coastratdog
I believe every damn bit of it. It is a genius plan actually. Because there is the promise of the payback. I believe Freeze could sell that fan base an empty 55 gallon drum, tell them that payoff on investment in the drum is 100% and every damn one of them would empty their bank account.
Does Oregon and Maryland use Nike and Under Armor sponsorship deals similar? If you are a high rated recruit, the coach can almost guarantee a Nike deal once your eligibility is up? I recently saw where Coach K recruits that Duke alumni will take care of you for the rest of your life. I am guessing he means job connections but who knows.
USC is my second team, they have been since I was a little kid back in the days of Anthony Davis. In all honesty I don't think it was worth it. It was fun at the time sure, a lot of fun. But what makes those things fun over the long haul are the memories. Those are tarnished forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Exactly! I would feel the same way. W* does not equal W no matter how much they try to convince themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Good point. But we do know what ignited the whole Tunsil situation is a disagreement between step dad and Tunsil over an agent. Now I.don't know if switching to sexton from the network plan would piss off step dad but we do know Tunsil took a different plan with his agent at some point and that set the whole thing off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb
No, in the case of Ole Miss. It's only worth it if you actually win something of note. I guess you could argue the Sugar Bowl, but I'd want the SEC or national championship for it to be truly worth it.
At the end of the day only the fans that went to the game or really keep up with the team will know about the Sugar Bowl win. After it gets stripped then UM is prevented from having any type of banner or mention in their program. It isn't like they can hang a banner with an * at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taog Redloh
It all depends on their punishment to determine whether or not it was worth it. I don't think they are going to end up thinking it was worth it when they get their sanctions, but we will see.
That is what happened with Reggie, interesting. May be on to smn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They still tout 3 national championships they never won, what would stop them from touting a bogus sugar bowl win?
Wow, I didn't realize the "financial advisor" who was Big Softie's agent in school was an Ole Miss booster.....but that makes sense. Can't believe Freezus and Sexton would try to cross a booster. Why has this not been publicized?
I wonder if the screwed over booster is one of ones getting disassociated from the university too? That would double suck for him. But, he may be a glutton for punishment.
Coach, wouldn't there be a way to track this? Is there a way to look into which OM athletes have been represented by OM alum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Definitely makes sense. No one would post those pictures and texts of Tunsil 10 minutes before the draft as a joke. You only do that if you have a serious vendetta. Someone got screwed over and had to take revenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundLazer
Jack check your PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I'm struggling a little bit with this one. First, my understanding is that sports agents must be licensed and certified. I think it would be pretty transparent if a bunch of random lawyers with known connections to OM suddenly got involved in the sports agency business and started representing OM players. Secondly, pretty much all these kids who are elite players want to sign with the best of the best (like a Sexton, Boras, or Rosenhaus), not some greenhorn who just fronted them some dough while they were in college. To me, it just seems too risky for both the player (potential loss of future income from signing with a guy with less negotiating experience in the business) as well as the booster (player could get injured, not pan out, or just decide not to honor the agreement like Tunsil allegedly did). I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it seems like a stretch to say this is what they do with all of their top prospects. I also think it would be interesting to know who is representing Nkemdiche and Treadwell as that would potentially shed more light on the situation.