I know. Just pointing out for others that may not know that in no way whatsoever was there a quid pro quo.
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A 17 year old guitarist can start a rock band and make millions.
A 17 year old ice skater can skate for a Disney show and make money.
A 17 year old painter can sale their paintings to the highest bidder.
A 17 year old pitcher can sign a multi-million dollar deal with a MLB club.
But a 17 year RB has to go play for 3 years in college and take no money other than educational expense or else he can be suspended and will lose playing time that cannot be regained.
How is this representative of free market capitalism (fair)?
I agree people should be able to go pro whenever they choose and am a right to work guy but that's not a Constitutional Law that's a rule made by a corporation and they should have the right to make their own rules.
But this reminds me of this similar argument , never gets old. "Go play intramurals brother! "
http://youtu.be/je-gpy6Y_UA
Because the NFL has developed a set of rules they feel is best for the investment. When they feel they need to, they will change the rules. In the meantime, feel free to organize a competing league to the NFL that will take allow that 17 year old to play. Let the free market take its course. Until then, boo hoo.
Put down the football and pick up a guitar or put on some ice skates. No one is forcing them to play football, that's what they choose to do, and with that comes the system in which they must participate. I don't think you have any idea what communism means. You start playing college football players you start killing college football, end of story. But these days where taking the easy way out and getting everything handed to you that's likely where it will end up.
Actually I'm not the one crying about it. There are other people on the board who voiced their displeasure when guys decide to leave college early to try out for the NFL draft. They are mad because a guy gets tired of giving away his talent and would rather go ahead and take his shot at the NFL.
Football in particular has a tremendous amount of risk of injury, pain, and long-term effects. Guys want to get paid while they're in their prime.
I don't know. Probably a better deal for the elite talent with access to signing bonuses and what not, but you are going to have to get a hefty hefty bump in minor league football salaries vs the baseball equivalent for it to be a good deal for the players. Tuition, room, and board for the college football player vs the crap salary that minor league baseball players get (especially in those early years)? College system is sounding pretty good for the masses.
I can just about guarantee you that Title IX concerns would make paying players more complicated than you could easily imagine.
How much are you going to pay SEC softball players? They work hard, they have skill...it's just that 99.5% of sports fans will never pay a nickel to see them. You think identity politics bean counters won't be hollering for equal pay for them? The whole thing will collapse on itself if Title IX rules the day.
OIf there was a minor league football system, NCAA football would not be screwed any more than college baseball is. The quality of the game would drop somewhat, yet there would be a return to the "student athlete" that the NCAA pretends is in existence now.
From the article:
I hear what you (and others) are saying but I look around at things like the TAMU football facilities (link) , Coaching salaries, and even our own Jumbotron; there is a lot of money floating around that in a different paradigm could go to the players and schools that produce them. Not NFL salaries but certainly something in line with what they earn for the school.Quote:
The amount of money generated by college sports is staggering: broadcast rights alone are worth over a billion dollars annually, and this doesn't include tickets sales for live events, revenue from merchandise, or fees from licensing.
I also understand what NYDawg and RocketDawg are saying about classes. I'm a EE who paid may way through but these fluff classes that have popped up is a product of the students not being prepared enough for college but the schools still really wanting them because of athletics. It's not always this way, remember Westerfield was an engineer.
Again, not saying this proposal is perfect but with things being slow it's something to discuss.
Simple fact - no way you can reward one group of athletes over the other. A metric for labor = to pay will have to be established for ALL schools to follow. It will require Academics be verified in order to make the athlete eligible to receive compensation. Also makes them employees.
Nowhere in this new payment plan will inducements, the primary culprit, be endorsed. Any UNM folks bringing this argument up should be aware paying athletes is agreeable in theory, but schools gaining unfair advantages via fiscal inducement or academic cheating is NOT the same issue.
Nor will providing vehicles, houses for entire families, skilled oral practitioners of head bobbing and suctions, backpacks of monopoly money prior to qualifying for salaried athletic scholarships, illegal contacts, alternative admissions testing - allegedly, be allowed under the new plan. No, pay for play would help some issues but boosters gonna boost beyond the rules and we all know it.
Come up with a pay scheme that works for qualified athletes, tie academic performance to maintaining the pay, and you solve one problem. The need for equity will still have schools cheating to offer more than allowed. We all know it. Recruiting will not change one damn bit.
Agreed. I would add however that the effectiveness of illegal incentives will decrease somewhat. If you're already pulling in a 'living' salary your much less likely to have your hand out for more in fear of losing what you have. But you are right that it would in no way eliminate all illegal inducements but by that standard we wouldn't have a lot of laws since they don't stop people from still breaking them. I know hyperbole much. :)
I think you hit on the bigger issue of equitable pay across school/conference. Probably need something like a salary cap that is tied to a percentage of revenue.