If what we are hearing is correct

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Originally Posted by elitedawgs

Hands down, Mississippi State and Dan Mullen are BY FAR the least of Ole Miss' problems right now.


And no, this information doesn't come from new golfing buddies Mark Emmert and Coach34. Our source was very clear that we cannot say anything on the details that we were told because it would directly jeopardize their job. We can say the rumors of "They shouldn't have messed with the big boys, Georgia, Alabama, FSU, etc" are dead on. This isn't going away.

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This is gonna be fun!

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

cheating didn't work out for them the way they expected under nutt. They brought in hugh "the great recruiting evangelist" and went big with the cheating. They figured that since he had this reputation as a great recruiter, that would explain getting all of those five star recruits and since he leads a sunday school class on twitter every day, that would show the world that he is too morally grounded to allow any cheating. I called this shit the day they hired him. He is a face for the program.

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You nailed it. Freeze is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and was brought in to put a nice Christian face in front of a dirty program to try and mask it.

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

They brought in hugh "the great recruiting evangelist" and went big with the cheating. They figured that since he had this reputation as a great recruiter, that would explain getting all of those five star recruits and since he leads a sunday school class on twitter every day, that would show the world that he is too morally grounded to allow any cheating. I called this shit the day they hired him. He is a face for the program.

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I'll agree 100% here. Freeze is the figurehead for the Archie/Rebel Machine. A guy that won't ask questions, a guy that knows his place. 'Their' guy. That's why I really don't think Freeze should be taking much of the heat, I feel that he really is a good guy, just a little naive to what they are doing, much like Chizik was at Auburn.

SMU all over again, if it really blows up. And it really needs to.

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Originally Posted by elitedawgs

Hands down, Mississippi State and Dan Mullen are BY FAR the least of Ole Miss' problems right now.


And no, this information doesn't come from new golfing buddies Mark Emmert and Coach34. Our source was very clear that we cannot say anything on the details that we were told because it would directly jeopardize their job. We can say the rumors of "They shouldn't have messed with the big boys, Georgia, Alabama, FSU, etc" are dead on. This isn't going away.

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I have a friend in Georgia that is UGA thru and thru and he's telling me his inside sources are telling him they have the goods on Ole Miss for on the recruiting of Tunsil. Said the word from there is Tunsil and/or family was paid $300,000 by Ole Miss. Take it for what its worth and I have not put this on any other board. I actually heard this several weeks back and all of the sudden Ole Miss is getting questioned by the NCAA.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

I find it interesting that this is getting ZERO traction on Rivals sports board. But they're happy to talk about MSU "bowling" with the recent Dillon Day trick shot, and of course they also say it may be the only "bowling" we do this year.

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didn't realize there was still an MSU rivals board

$ 300,000 is a lot for an OT ....... Heisman QB's are only going for $ 180,000

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

$ 300,000 is a lot for an OT ....... Heisman QB's are only going for $ 180,000

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That was the discounted price for us **

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Originally Posted by jumbo

didn't realize there was still an MSU rivals board

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Main college board. And yes, there are quite a few "Black Bear Named Rebel"s over there, with maybe 3 or 4 Bulldogs. I've had some epic battles over there with several of their fans. Have also got a couple of there that are decent posters. But they are clearly in the minority in that delusional group.

I wonder if this IncarceratedBob cat really does have some info, and if so, how or who would he get stuff like that from?

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

$ 300,000 is a lot for an OT ....... Heisman QB's are only going for $ 180,000

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The money forked out is increasing exponentially, while the wins hover between the 2-6 range. Someone should really revamp their business school with this type of shit. They might actually have a BBall arena that doesnt have rain delays if they put all this money into something that produced results. What a bunch of clowns. Might I add though, that they had to fork out a total of around $80k for CJ as an instate guy. Going 2 states away, and stealing from a BCS contender is going to cost a good deal more. So $300k isn't that unreasonable to think they forked out.

I seriously doubt Bobby Boy has anything of substance outside of potential receipts from OM players gambling through him or providing inside tips to him for money. And that's a big if...

I do however think that at least 4, maybe 5, other schools have had officials talk to the NCAA about what they know/have on OM. I also think it's going to take the NCAA at least a year if not two to figure it all out. I also do not expect to see Tunsil, CJ, Kailo, Connor, and maybe A. Golson playing against Vandy.

Is the "IT" hack u were talking about that was coming?? This investigation of tsun players??

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I seriously doubt Bobby Boy has anything of substance outside of potential receipts from OM players gambling through him or providing inside tips to him for money. And that's a big if...

I do however think that at least 4, maybe 5, other schools have had officials talk to the NCAA about what they know/have on OM. I also think it's going to take the NCAA at least a year if not two to figure it all out. I also do not expect to see Tunsil, CJ, Kailo, Connor, and maybe A. Golson playing against Vandy.

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that would be huge for them

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Originally Posted by engie

Saving the big fish for last IMO. I could see a scenario where they've got Tunsil dead to rights to the extent that an interview is just a formality. It was that blatant and over the top what OM did for his family while they rubbed UGA's nose in it. Therefore, that one is assumed -- and they are looking into all the rest of these guys looking for a pattern. When/if they find the pattern, it becomes an institutional control matter -- and it becomes very serious for them...

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I bet Veazey has alot more he hasn't put out there yet.

I hightly doubt this gets as bad as SMU... I mean realistically Penn St was the worst scandal I've ever heard of and they didn't get the death penalty...

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Originally Posted by CJDAWG85

I hightly doubt this gets as bad as SMU... I mean realistically Penn St was the worst scandal I've ever heard of and they didn't get the death penalty...

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Yep, if Penn State didn't get the death penalty, then its off the table in the NCAA's eyes.

This says a lot about their school if they have to pay that kind of cash to a recruit...and with rare success on the field. It is clear the boosters run the program as much as Freeze, but he knew the deal coming in. He's responsible for his own actions.

The thing about all this is all the MSU people are saying the same thing. Everyone I've heard from has said the same thing. Usually stories don't match up - they do here. I don't know what they ultimate punishment will be, but I do know ole miss cheated because you don't have this many people saying the same thing. I think ole miss knows it internally, but they aren't spilling the beans to their people, but telling them there is nothing instead so they will fire back at MSU people believing State is fabricating this whole thing.

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Originally Posted by CJDAWG85

I hightly doubt this gets as bad as SMU... I mean realistically Penn St was the worst scandal I've ever heard of and they didn't get the death penalty...

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Not necessarily. As horrible as the PSU situation was, it never broke any rules as far as giving a team an unfair advantage or impermissible benefits to a player. That was a school covering for a pedophile on payroll raping little boys. If what we are hearing is true about the bears to the north then I expect the NCAA to try and imitate Thor dropping that hammer.

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Originally Posted by Goat Holder

I'll agree 100% here. Freeze is the figurehead for the Archie/Rebel Machine. A guy that won't ask questions, a guy that knows his place. 'Their' guy. That's why I really don't think Freeze should be taking much of the heat, I feel that he really is a good guy, just a little naive to what they are doing, much like Chizik was at Auburn.

SMU all over again, if it really blows up. And it really needs to.

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Yes. They are trying to pull off what Auburn did with Chizik. Tubs wouldn't go for their cheating so he hit the road and they got an unpopular choice who was just happy to have the job but good enough to steer the ship once he got the players.