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03-26-2016, 09:49 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Its a different culture they grow up in- fighting happens quite often- even between girls and boys. Simmons admitted he was wrong and apologized. He hasnt even been charged with anything yet. Nobody ended up in the hospital. It happens everyday in towns all across Mississippi

My guess is, if he truly wanted to mess her up, he would have done it.
03-26-2016, 09:50 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

Stupid decision totally out of character similar to Dak & the DUI. Hope he learns from it & he'll be at MSU in June.
03-26-2016, 09:51 PM
msstate7

Sooo... Is Simmons in danger of getting booted before he even makes it to campus?
03-26-2016, 09:52 PM
BeardoMSU

I'll say this. The court of public opinion plays a major role, right or wrong. If y'all had seen this video, and it was insert OM player throwing the punches, most would be demanding he get kicked off the team. Or, if this was a person that didn't also happen to be a good pass-rusher, and was just a normal dude, I'm sure the language would be much worse.
03-26-2016, 09:53 PM
Coach34

While at Charleston:

We had both of our top 2 TB's get in a fight at school- the starter fought a girl. I agreed with our HC that they should be suspended for the Spring game- even though that was going to put me in a bind on offense. The Superintendent called us both in and asked us why in the hell we were going to suspend them for the Spring Game "just for fighting". I shit you not people, the Super said "Hell, the girl Eldra hit was as big as him and he only hit her twice. She admitted to starting it. Let's compromise and only sit him the 2nd half???"

Then the Super in very plain terms said we were not to sit both players the whole game. #Charleston
03-26-2016, 09:56 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'll say this. The court of public opinion plays a major role, right or wrong. If y'all had seen this video, and it was insert OM player throwing the punches, most would be demanding he get kicked off the team. Or, if this was a person that didn't also happen to be a good pass-rusher, and was just a normal dude, I'm sure the language would be much worse.

No- its a culture thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLsg5Nwy8eU
03-26-2016, 09:57 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Coach34

While at Charleston:

We had both of our top 2 TB's get in a fight at school- the starter fought a girl. I agreed with our HC that they should be suspended for the Spring game- even though that was going to put me in a bind on offense. The Superintendent called us both in and asked us why in the hell we were going to suspend them for the Spring Game "just for fighting". I shit you not people, the Super said "Hell, the girl Eldra hit was as big as him and he only hit her twice. She admitted to starting it. Let's compromise and only sit him the 2nd half???"

Then the Super in very plain terms said we were not to sit both players the whole game. #Charleston

I hear ya dude, but this wasn't a fair fight between 2 athletes. Yeah, it was a fair fight when it was just the 2 women pulling hair, slapping, and shit, but when he got involved, she was already on her back. And he didn't just throw 1 punch to "protect his sister".

Btw. The whole video is out, including the events that led to the few seconds most will focus on. Context is important.
03-26-2016, 09:59 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

My guess is, if he truly wanted to mess her up, he would have done it.

You people are freaking bonkers.
03-26-2016, 09:59 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'll say this. The court of public opinion plays a major role, right or wrong. If y'all had seen this video, and it was insert OM player throwing the punches, most would be demanding he get kicked off the team. Or, if this was a person that didn't also happen to be a good pass-rusher, and was just a normal dude, I'm sure the language would be much worse.

What consequences can public opinion levy though?

What Simmons did is wrong, but I don't see what public opinion has to do with it. Can the public punish Simmons or Mullen? What exact role does public opinion play?
03-26-2016, 09:59 PM
Bucky Dog

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Its a different culture they grow up in- fighting happens quite often- even between girls and boys. Simmons admitted he was wrong and apologized. He hasnt even been charged with anything yet. Nobody ended up in the hospital. It happens everyday in towns all across Mississippi

He will be charged if the Network pays the girl to press charges!!
03-26-2016, 10:00 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I hear ya dude, but this wasn't a fair fight between 2 athletes. Yeah, it was a fair fight when it was just the 2 women pulling hair, slapping, and shit, but when he got involved, she was already on her back. And he didn't just throw 1 punch to "protect his sister".

Btw. The whole video is out, including the events that led to the few seconds most will focus on. Context is important.

What was the context? Does Jeffrey have a leg to stand on?
03-26-2016, 10:00 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bucky Dog

He will be charged if the Network pays the girls to press charges!!

Vice versa
03-26-2016, 10:03 PM
Bucky Dog

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Vice versa

Or will try to sue him to keep it in the media.
03-26-2016, 10:05 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

What consequences can public opinion levy though?

What Simmons did is wrong, but I don't see what public opinion has to do with it. Can the public punish Simmons or Mullen? What exact role does public opinion play?

My bad, perhaps I could have been more clear. I was pointing more to how perception (more specifically, and unfortunately, what team you pull for), influences how people view these types of things. I wasn't saying/thinking anything about consequence. In my mind, there isn't much grey area when a 6'4 dude is seen throwing a barrage of fists at a woman on her back, unless he was obviously in danger....which he wasn't.
03-26-2016, 10:06 PM
ShotgunDawg

I can't believe I'm reading MSU fans on twitter say that Simmons should be kicked off the team. Are you 17ing kidding me?

I get what he did is terrible, but what exactly does kicking him off the team accomplish? He's not even at MSU yet or on the team yet

Are you really going to kick him off only to see him go to EMCC & then sign with Ole Miss next year? What does that accomplish? (BTW, my guess is that the Rebs are cheering for this happen)

He made a mistake, but kicking him off only to see him sign next year with a rival is stupidity. I'd rather Mullen just suspend him for next season & make him redshirt.
03-26-2016, 10:06 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What was the context? Does Jeffrey have a leg to stand on?

Check your PM; I'll let you make up your own mind.
03-26-2016, 10:08 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

My bad, perhaps I could have been more clear. I was pointing more to how perception (more specifically, and unfortunately, what team you pull for), influences how people view these types of things. I wasn't saying/thinking anything about consequence. In my mind, there isn't much grey area when a 6'4 dude is seen throwing a barrage of fists at a woman on her back, unless he was obviously in danger....which he wasn't.

I get what you are saying, but why does it matter how people view things?
03-26-2016, 10:08 PM
smootness

For the record, the decision on whether or not to allow him to play falls on the school and on Mullen...and I'm fine with whatever decision they make. I don't think this is a big enough thing to have to ruin his career or life or anything, assuming it's a one-time deal. But anyone trying to normalize this or defend him in this instance is the exact same kind of fan that allowed a program like Penn State to get to the point where everyone would turn a blind eye to what went on there.

It's sports, it's not important enough to compromise being a good, honest human being.
03-26-2016, 10:09 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by smootness

For the record, the decision on whether or not to allow him to play falls on the school and on Mullen...and I'm fine with whatever decision they make. I don't think this is a big enough thing to have to ruin his career or life or anything, assuming it's a one-time deal. But anyone trying to normalize this or defend him in this instance is the exact same kind of fan that allowed a program like Penn State to get to the point where everyone would turn a blind eye to what went on there.

It's sports, it's not important enough to compromise being a good, honest human being.

This.
03-26-2016, 10:12 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by smootness

For the record, the decision on whether or not to allow him to play falls on the school and on Mullen...and I'm fine with whatever decision they make. I don't think this is a big enough thing to have to ruin his career or life or anything, assuming it's a one-time deal. But anyone trying to normalize this or defend him in this instance is the exact same kind of fan that allowed a program like Penn State to get to the point where everyone would turn a blind eye to what went on there.

It's sports, it's not important enough to compromise being a good, honest human being.

My viewpoint has nothing to do with the fact that it's an MSU player.

Guess what? I also sided with Jameis Winston. Wow just wow right?

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