Cohen haters, fire yourselves

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03-20-2016, 05:23 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Nobody is making up anything. We got the info straight out of the team- that cant be denied. And he 100% lost the team last year- again comes from actual team members.

And of all the people I've talked to- I havent had 1- not 1- say "I really like Cohen". Hell, alot of his former teammates cant stand him- and that comes straight from former teammates. You dont have to agree- but these are things I know to be true.

I know the opposite to be true, and yes, from good sources. So I guess the viewing public will simply have to make up their own minds.
03-20-2016, 05:26 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

No doubt that his name needs to stop being tied to every job opening, and when it does he needs to squash it....but as far as what he's done on the field, I think the majority realizes that he has been really good and if we were to run him off, we'd have a hard time finding a competent replacement.

Its going to be an interesting Fall for us I think. Mullen is pissed because we didnt extend his contract, we're pissed he job shopped hard, we are possibly looking at a little bit of down season, and we play OM in Oxford as they go for 3 in a row....going to be very interesting to see what pans out by Jan 1st
03-20-2016, 05:27 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

I know the opposite to be true, and yes, from good sources. So I guess the viewing public will simply have to make up their own minds.

Well, when your source becomes 4 players sitting around talking about it- let me know
03-20-2016, 05:29 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Well, when your source becomes 4 players sitting around talking about it- let me know

Depends on which players I guess, now don't it?
03-20-2016, 05:45 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Well, when your source becomes 4 players sitting around talking about it- let me know

I don't doubt you heard of some players on a bad team talking negatively about the coach. Anytime a team struggles there are going to be member of that team that think they were misused or that the coach failed them, after all they've been the best of the best their whole lives. So that in and of itself tells me jack shit.

I've heard players say that Cohen does an exceptional job of preparing his teams and getting them ready to play. On top of that, he's a hell of a recruiter for "nobody to say they actually like him".

I'll probably be labeled a "Cohen defender" when in actuality I'm just a realist without an agenda, however I will say this: there were/are some gutless entitled, yet talented wannabes within the program. The good news is Cohen has recruited some more guys that fit the mold of gritty, tuff, and talented.
03-20-2016, 05:54 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

I don't doubt you heard of some players on a bad team talking negatively about the coach. Anytime a team struggles there are going to be member of that team that think they were misused or that the coach failed them, after all they've been the best of the best their whole lives. So that in and of itself tells me jack shit.

I've heard players say that Cohen does an exceptional job of preparing his teams and getting them ready to play. On top of that, he's a hell of a recruiter for "nobody to say they actually like him".

I'll probably be labeled a "Cohen defender" when in actuality I'm just a realist without an agenda, however I will say this: there were/are some gutless entitled, yet talented wannabes within the program. The good news is Cohen has recruited some more guys that fit the mold of gritty, tuff, and talented.

I have no idea who the players are that C34 is talking about...
But I know of 3 that played on NCAA runner-up team (all 3 played a lot) that had nothing good to say about CJC...
This current team may not feel the same way...
03-20-2016, 06:03 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by mic

I have no idea who the players are that C34 is talking about...
But I know of 3 that played on NCAA runner-up team (all 3 played a lot) that had nothing good to say about CJC...
This current team may not feel the same way...

They hated him so badly that they signed to play for him and spent 3-4 years of their lives playing for him. And then, most of them come back and spend a ton of time around the program.
03-20-2016, 06:56 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

They hated him so badly that they signed to play for him and spent 3-4 years of their lives playing for him. And then, most of them come back and spend a ton of time around the program.

I spent 2 years playing for my juco coach that I absolutely could not stand- that doesnt mean shit. Its also natural for guys that just graduated to come back to their school- they still have friends on the team and friends still in school. Plus they are treated as rock stars in Sville- and many miss that terribly once they are done with baseball
03-20-2016, 07:55 PM
Political Hack

I'm upset with Cohen for allowing us to lose to crap teams, but I'm far from a "fire Cohen" guy. That said, his team's generally haven't liked him very much. It's pretty consistent.

Bama players don't really love Saban when they leave either, but they respect him. If Cohen's plan leads to success his players will appreciate him despite not wanting to give him a hug. Just win.
03-20-2016, 08:04 PM
confucius say

Who the hell cares if he is liked. Very talented players want to play for him. All that matters.
03-20-2016, 08:13 PM
ETDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

When you are coming off a losing season at State in baseball- and lose to Eastern Kentucky, Oral Roberts, and others- your rope gets short. Thats just a fact. Plus, you have a faction of the fanbse that wont like him no matter what he does. You have a donor withholding millions of dollars back until Cohen leaves. s

Coach, is this really true about a donor? What is the reason he/she doesn't like Cohen?
03-20-2016, 08:29 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by ETDawg

Coach, is this really true about a donor? What is the reason he/she doesn't like Cohen?

What I was told and why the new stadium remains up in the air currently. No idea what the reason is- but we are talking a significant 7-figure donation. And we have had trouble selling seats as well- and its because of the way people feel about Cohen and the program. If we come thru this year he will win a few people back- and thats important. Winning cures alot of ills. But with some of our guys- its more than that
03-20-2016, 08:38 PM
GTHOM

Give me Cohen over Mullen anyday

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