Dan's gotta go.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Well said. If Mullen leaves, we are going to the get the dregs of the coaching picking-order. Not to mention the effect that will have on the current recruiting class.

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No we will not get the dregs. This is a SEC job. Great salary. Great facilities. Sell-out crowds. Oh and the recruiting class... you mean the one that is ranked in the 40s?

Dan has mailed it in. That more than anything is unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

We can literally double the salary of over half the coaches in the country... For example, I've seen people bandying Fedora's name around -- he only makes 1.9m at UNC.

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You think money is the only issue?

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

We can literally double the salary of over half the coaches in the country... For example, I've seen people bandying Fedora's name around -- he only makes 1.9m at UNC.

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And Fedora left USM because they couldn't afford his assistants. So, getting Monken to take a long look would not be difficult either.

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Originally Posted by Coach

People need to hold off for another year.

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America accepts mediocre effort too much. We dont need it in coaching. Think of what a coach who actually cares can do with what we have coming back.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

And Fedora left USM because they couldn't afford his assistants. So, getting Monken to take a long look would not be difficult either.

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Sorry but I'm gonna be more pissed than I am right now if ****ing Monken is the best we can do

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Originally Posted by Coach

A class that's not really great too!


People are way to emotional right now. Now is the time to be consistent because of all the shake ups. We return a lot next year. People need to hold off for another year.

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You are correct, we do return a lot next year. But, we will continue to get the same results if something doesn't change. I'm not saying fire him but Stricklin needs to light a fire under him somehow.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

No we will not get the dregs. This is a SEC job. Great salary. Great facilities. Sell-out crowds. Oh and the recruiting class... you mean the one that is ranked in the 40s?

Dan has mailed it in. That more than anything is unacceptable.

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On well in that case! Since we are the SEC BABY! You need to grasp that the current system don't give 2 tricks about the SEC. Iowa... Etc etc... Houston is upping their pay etc..

I'm all for Ms St and the future, but now isn't the time. Next year will be if he doesn't produce.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Oh and the recruiting class... you mean the one that is ranked in the 40s?

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And what do you think will happen to it when recruits start jumping ship. Things can get a lot worse.

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Sorry but I'm gonna be more pissed than I am right now if ****ing Monken is the best we can do

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We ain't getting Chip Kelly. And Monken ain't a bad coach.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

And what do you think will happen to it when recruits start jumping ship. Things can get a lot worse.

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I could accept a short-term loss for a long-term gain.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I could accept a short-term loss for a long-term gain.

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Go ahead and expect a long term loss. There may be a gain, but it ain't gonna be quick. We're behind the 8-ball as is.

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Originally Posted by Coach

On well in that case! Since we are the SEC BABY! You need to grasp that the current system don't give 2 tricks about the SEC. Iowa... Etc etc... Houston is upping their pay etc..

I'm all for Ms St and the future, but now isn't the time. Next year will be if he doesn't produce.

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This is a hard lesson we learned from the Sherrill, Stansbury, and Polk II eras. When you know that something has to be done, you gotta pull the trigger. One more year is another year down the hole. It may be acceptable for you to watch the same old shit next year, but I've seen enough.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

And what do you think will happen to it when recruits start jumping ship. Things can get a lot worse.

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Then by all means let's keep rolling with this dumpster fire. I'm sure it will get better **

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Originally Posted by LibraryDawg

You are correct, we do return a lot next year. But, we will continue to get the same results if something doesn't change. I'm not saying fire him but Stricklin needs to light a fire under him somehow.

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That I agree with! Here's the thing, lok around at what the SEC west and what's happening. Ole Miss falling off the planet with players moving on. Bama is going to change drastically due to their coaches leaving.... LSU.. New coaches... Etc.

Showing some consistency in a down year with a few replacements.,.. That would be the plan.

We aren't looking at he whole picture either. What made Dak great? The fact that Dan hired a qb coach. That coach has Fitz performing better than Dak was at the same class. Dan goes, he goes.

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Then by all means let's keep rolling with this dumpster fire. I'm sure it will get better **

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That's not what I'm saying at all, Green. I'm just a little surprised that people think all we have to do is change coaches and everything will be all good, while ignoring the fact that there are a shit ton of teams that are also hiring new coaches. Yes we are in the SEC; yes we can afford to spend money on a coach; yes we have fan support, facilities, etc.; but, it's tough to win in the SEC West, and most everyone is getting better.

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That I agree with! Here's the thing, lok around at what the SEC west and what's happening. Ole Miss falling off the planet with players moving on. Bama is going to change drastically due to their coaches leaving.... LSU.. New coaches... Etc.

Showing some consistency in a down year with a few replacements.,.. That would be the plan.

We aren't looking at he whole picture either. What made Dak great? The fact that Dan hired a qb coach. That coach has Fitz performing better than Dak was at the same class. Dan goes, he goes.

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LSU ain't changing coaches...

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

This is a hard lesson we learned from the Sherrill, Stansbury, and Polk II eras. When you know that something has to be done, you gotta pull the trigger. One more year is another year down the hole. It may be acceptable for you to watch the same old shit next year, but I've seen enough.

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Really? Because basketball did so well after? Football improved how far down the line?

Personally, I agree... When something needs to be done.. Do it. Over all, Dan is the guy who has made changes to the staff to better he program. We will see that again if he does indeed stay.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

That's not what I'm saying at all, Green. I'm just a little surprised that people think all we have to do is change coaches and everything will be all good, while ignoring the fact that there are a shit ton of teams that are also hiring new coaches. Yes we are in the SEC; yes we can afford to spend money on a coach; yes we have fan support, facilities, etc.; but, it's tough to win in the SEC West, and most everyone is getting better.

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You're right about that. I get that people are nervous that we could end up with our 4th or 5th option and he be another croom. Although we think this job is great a lot of coaches in other parts of the country probably don't see it that way. But I still say we have to take that chance and move on. Mullen did wonders for this program but it's time to part ways

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

LSU ain't changing coaches...

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They may not. But I think LSU is beatable with Dan. I think Saban and freeze is all that stops us next year and I feel we can beat one of them.

I would not be surprised to see us ranked top 10 mid season.