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no one would care if something happened and the cop needed to restrain him to prevent the incident from escalating. thst doesn't mean punching him in the face while hes being held by other cops till hes fuc*ed up. that's the issueQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach
File a complaint. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway
You can laugh all you want, but had the guy taken my advice he would not have ended up on the hospital with a broken orbital socket and eye damage. Sometimes the "right" play isn't the smart one... all I'm saying. Once a cop puts their hands on you, you're going to go with them so fighting is not a smart play.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!Quote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway
Sorry but.... no.
He was hit 2 times.... we dont know if he kicked the cop... or what. That's all anybody is saying. Once we know then we can take that and determine what's what. However, what we do know is that he didn't get any medical attention at all while in police custody. That's not on the cop, that's on the police station as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyQuid
But making assumptions about what happened and didn't happen leading up to the 2 punches is not warranted.
Because people are afraid they'll receive the same abuse with no justice. I know I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
I don't need to make assumptions to see what I know is abuse of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Zq0EBrQRw
Like Chris Rocks says..."If a cop has to come after you, he's bringing an ass whooping with him."
Oh... so now police can not defend themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy dawg
The video I saw showed this guy gut punch an officer and the. He was taken down. He caused a huge seen in the stands and he was surrounded by all OM fans so his own turned on himQuote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
I agree we see two minutes and don't know what happened before. But that little red headed pink cop took some spcheap shots at that dude. Yes if they are telling you to leave, the. Get out and talk to them downstairs. Did the guy need to punch him in the face with other cops standing right by him? Hell no! And to me it appears the other cops looked a little stunned that he hit the dude and one appears to grab the cop.
When you mix a cop on a power trip and what looks to be an intoxicated fan that is resisting - it's never good.
I was told that he spit in the cops face at one point. Also in the video you can see the guy grabbing a cop 2 different times. As a cop I believe the cop was justified if he spit on him. You never know what someone has, and yes if someone spits on you. You can use force on him. Second if someone grabs you. You better knock their d*ck in the dirt. Also with the thing about him not getting medical treatment. He was asked for medical but refused
I dunno bout you fellers... but had I been (the fan) in that situation, I might have gotten a good talkin' to... I may have even been escorted outta the stadium.... There's even an outside chance I may have spent the afternoon/eve in the pokey...
but I do know this, there would not be a picture of me with stitches over my eye and a busted eye socket goin' viral on the 'net....
You and I clearly have different definitions of defending oneself. Cops do need to protect themselves. That was beyond protecting of oneself. It didn't matter what happened before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
...yet... keep thinking it can't happen to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Right now there are many rumors. One being he tried to get the cops gun. Another is he hit the cop and the cop hit him back. What happened before does matter. Always has, always will.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy dawg
That's bullshlt!! I worked in the business for over 30 years at a few PD's and SO's. My last stint I supervised around 180 officers. Very few times did I have a valid complaint on one of my officers assaulting a citizen. Now there were scuffles when an officer was trying to effect an arrest at which time that subject refused to comply with the officers command. Procedure is to be polite and ask them to go with you, maybe it was jail or maybe it was just to leave the premises. If subject refuses, you politely place your hand on subjects shoulder and try to lead him out of there. At that time if he pulls or jerks away he has officially resisted arrest. Use what ever force is necessary to make the arrest while keeping in mind the safety of the officer and those innocent individuals around the scene. I retired after 30 years in LE and I am so glad that I'm not having to witness what's going on now with all this hate being perpetrated by our potus.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepy dawg
I know a bunch of young cops. Even played in a state wide benefit golf tourny for a fallen officer. 90% are good ole boys. 10% are young, steroided up rage heads on a power trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg
They are also the ones who talk like they just graduated law school, but the only higher education they have had is the law enforcement academy. They are always exiting a vehicle instead of getting out of a car.
He would also likely be facing bogus criminal charges (unless he actually committed a crime) and not be one the receiving end of a nice settlement from an upcoming lawsuit. I know you are trying to say that you aren't dismissinf the cops behavior. But you are. If you aren't doing anything wrong, you shouldn't be arrested and humiliated. Under no circumstances was that officer justified in the way he actedQuote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway