Aeris

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Shumpert had 8 carries. Aeris had 6. THAT IS THE PROBLEM with Dan Mullen.

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Shump had 0 carries against Kentucky. Conditions forced using him more for ball security last night. That is the problem with not looking at the big picture of what they were doing. And it worked! We scored 31 and didn't even need Williams. Get the win, on the road, protect the ball (Dak fumbled as well so conditions were an issue), don't shake Williams confidence, play him in good spots and let him make good runs to milk the clock as well. I think it was a really good job by the coaches with all the factors of last night. And he still is getting more carries since his fumble.

Mullen and crew are getting it figured out. I liked what I saw as well with Williams, but the gashes at the end were against a deflated and beaten defense. He is still an explosive runner and very talented as is Lee. But I trust our staff and back them. Shump made some good plays last night and shouldn't be taken out behind the woodshed. Mizzu kept it interesting on the heels of our turnovers. It is going to be a chess match with Bama and costly turnovers will lose us the game. I am just glad it is not up to me to make the decisions, but I expect a good emotional game next weekend. We take care of the football, get our OL patched together, and contain Henry, we will beat Bama

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Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg

Everybody has written off Shumpet, but he had a decent game. He forced the fumble on the kickoff. His touchdown that was called back on the hold was an excellent individual effort on his part. He showed some flashes rushing. Not saying he's great, but he's also not as bad as everybody is saying. He still has the potential to make the play that wins a game for us.

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Agreed. He's surprisingly fast when he gets some room to fully extend his legs. I think that's one of his problems; his stride is so long that he struggles to make quick moves in traffic. He's actually been mostly serviceable this year when he takes the ball and goes straight north/south without hesitation. I think he could still be a pretty decent back within our system if the dance and hesitation could be coached out of him.

Also, the subject of Shump's performance last night made me remember this: I hate that belly counter play. We ran it twice for a loss last night. Memphis, who I follow closely, runs it about 6-7 times a game, and I've hardly ever seen them gain a yard with it. I like the counter play in general, I just think that particular play has a terrible blocking concept, and that it's starting your back off at a disadvantage to give him the ball with no momentum in any direction.

This all day!!!! he hasnt punished Holloway for his .......

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All of this Aeris has problems fumbling is bullshit. He has one fumble and Dan doesn't let him play. Shumpert did the EXACT same thing against USM and if I'm not mistaken Holloway had at least two and obviously the one last night.

Williams has ONE in well over 30 carries and it's an "issue" and a problem? And I don't think Lee or Dear have one yet.

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You are just trying to convenience yourself of another anti-coach agenda. You know the numbers are not even close for Shump's and Holloway's career on fumbling. It's not even close to compare them to Williams and Lee and you know it because you know the numbers. Good coaching job NOT to let Williams get into a bad situation because of conditions. Shump didn't even run against Kentucky. Thank God we have a player who doesn't have an ego and is about team to take a demotion but because of conditions asked to step into a roll that gets him called out constantly by fans but go out there and protect the ball. And we have a coach with enough balls to protect the ball and Williams as a player and then used him in a good situation in game we didn't need him to when. You are trying so hard to hate Mullen on the majority of what he does for what reason I don't know.

ETA. Lee fumbled out of bounds once this year. On 23 or so touches. Holloway 2 fumbles for his career of 152 touches. His whole career.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Shump had 0 carries against Kentucky. Conditions forced using him more for ball security last night. That is the problem with not looking at the big picture of what they were doing. And it worked! We scored 31 and didn't even need Williams. Get the win, on the road, protect the ball (Dak fumbled as well so conditions were an issue), don't shake Williams confidence, play him in good spots and let him make good runs to milk the clock as well. I think it was a really good job by the coaches with all the factors of last night. And he still is getting more carries since his fumble.

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And that was by far the best our running game has looked. Shumpert barely played against UK because of his back. Not because of some brilliant game plan by Dan Walsh.

I get the big picture. You and Dan don't. Aeris is our best running back and we are better when he plays period. He is obviously past the fumble against A&M. Just because Milton was a head case doesn't mean Aeris and Lee would be as well.

What we did "worked" because of Dak- and would have worked better with Aeris getting most of the carries.

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Originally Posted by BorneDawg

This all day!!!! he hasnt punished Holloway for his .......

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Holloway has gone 2 years without fumbling. I think he has earned the coaches trust. Dak has fumbled 3 times this year, the most on the team. PULL DAK***

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And that was by far the best our running game has looked. Shumpert barely played against UK because of his back. Not because of some brilliant game plan by Dan Walsh.

I get the big picture. You and Dan don't. Aeris is our best running back and we are better when he plays period. He is obviously past the fumble against A&M. Just because Milton was a head case doesn't mean Aeris and Lee would be as well.

What we did "worked" because of Dak- and would have worked better with Aeris getting most of the carries.

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Shump played special teams against Kentucky. His back was fine and it has mentioned on here multiple times. He just didn't play RB and you know why. You just refuse to get it. Dan has a little bit better grasp on the personnel that you do. By a lot. It just doesn't fit your bias and the fact it worked great last night. It was a good call for that game last night.

Oh and for most of the year you have beat the Lee is by far our best back. That is what you thought except he hasn't done anything against SEC teams. Yes limited carries but Williams has looked much better in the bigger games.

What does it worked because of Dak mean? Crap of course everybody doing their job made it work. That's a worthless statement. Because you can depend on Dak to do his part it doesn't count? That's part of the whole strategy. That's an absurd statement.

Please tell me someone saw Shump in the 1st quarter make one of the most horrible attempts at a pass block you've ever seen? He literally dove at the DE coming around the end on Senior and completely whiffed. Didn't even touch him. It was pretty embarrassing. And yes I know Shump is pretty good at pass blocking, but if he can do that kind of thing and still play, what the hell are Lee and Aeris doing that gets them virtually no playing time?

We seem to be mixing it up a little more, but we've got to do it more. Guys on the broadcast pointed it out. We don't have the do it all RB, although I think Aeris is the guy who has the most potential to become that. He's got the speed, he's got the ability to go between the tackles, and if he can get better catching the football, he can be a more consistent threat in the passing game. He becomes the X factor down the stretch if we can use him in multiple ways. Defenses don't do well with RBs who are multiple in what they do.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Please tell me someone saw Shump in the 1st quarter make one of the most horrible attempts at a pass block you've ever seen? He literally dove at the DE coming around the end on Senior and completely whiffed. Didn't even touch him.

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I can confirm.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

It was a general statement. It's been our mo to see guys disappear after a mistake.

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That did happen with Milton and others as well. Can't say some of those calls were not the right one though. I do like he has increased Williams carries and hopefully he continues to protect and the touches get to 10-15 per game for the final stretch. I like that he put Willams in good situations last night and not when the conditions were so bad. We are going to need to get at least 60-80 rushing yards and another 30-40 "extended handoff" type of throws against Bama I think. And Dak, Williams, Holloway is the best combo for that.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And that was by far the best our running game has looked. Shumpert barely played against UK because of his back. Not because of some brilliant game plan by Dan Walsh.

I get the big picture. You and Dan don't. Aeris is our best running back and we are better when he plays period. He is obviously past the fumble against A&M. Just because Milton was a head case doesn't mean Aeris and Lee would be as well.

What we did "worked" because of Dak- and would have worked better with Aeris getting most of the carries.

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1) Can we please quit with the 'Dan Walsh' bullshit? Mullen has taken our program to heights we've never seen here before, and will keep doing so until he leaves for greener pastures.
2) Dan Mullen is responsible for 3 of the top 6 all-time TD leaders in SEC history. So yeah, he knows offense.
3) You acting like you know more about football than Mullen is ****ing laughable. Seriously. Stop it.

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Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg

Everybody has written off Shumpet, but he had a decent game. He forced the fumble on the kickoff. His touchdown that was called back on the hold was an excellent individual effort on his part. He showed some flashes rushing. Not saying he's great, but he's also not as bad as everybody is saying. He still has the potential to make the play that wins a game for us.

The running game issue is getting critical. We can't beat Bama if we don't find a way to get three of four up the middle. Maybe we can, but I'd feel better if I knew that the Bama defense had to take our running back seriously.

Not sure what the solution is. Williams is getting better although that was a terrible drop. Not sure what we'll do, but I bet we have a chance to beat Bama late in the game next Saturday. Looking forward to it.

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Shump averaged 1.5 yards per carry last night. FART....

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Holloway has gone 2 years without fumbling. I think he has earned the coaches trust. Dak has fumbled 3 times this year, the most on the team. PULL DAK***

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Point missed. Re read previous posts and Try again.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Holloway for his career 152 touches 2 fumbles, 1 lost. Williams 39 touches 1 fumble and it was lost. So yeah Holloway still has a much better track record for the coaches and they also have the benefit of seeing what they do in practice. Oh and since the A & M game Williams carries have increased in conference games. Shump didn't even touch the RB spot against Kentucky, you know conditions dictated when Williams got carries because of his issues protecting the ball. He ran well and his carries may increase some more and hopefully he is gaining the coaches trust he will protect the ball.

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Shump was hurt vs UK. Come on now.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Shump was hurt vs UK. Come on now.

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He played against Kentucky, not just RB.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

You are just trying to convenience yourself of another anti-coach agenda. You know the numbers are not even close for Shump's and Holloway's career on fumbling. It's not even close to compare them to Williams and Lee and you know it because you know the numbers. Good coaching job NOT to let Williams get into a bad situation because of conditions. Shump didn't even run against Kentucky. Thank God we have a player who doesn't have an ego and is about team to take a demotion but because of conditions asked to step into a roll that gets him called out constantly by fans but go out there and protect the ball. And we have a coach with enough balls to protect the ball and Williams as a player and then used him in a good situation in game we didn't need him to when. You are trying so hard to hate Mullen on the majority of what he does for what reason I don't know.

ETA. Lee fumbled out of bounds once this year. On 23 or so touches. Holloway 2 fumbles for his career of 152 touches. His whole career.

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And Aeris has ONE in 35 attempts- again not enough to warrant "a problem" especially when Williams only had 13 fewer attempts.

A fumble out of bounds in 23 touches also does not indicate "a problem".

My problem with Dan is his use of personnel which had he managed better we would be 8-1 right now.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

You are just trying to convenience yourself of another anti-coach agenda. You know the numbers are not even close for Shump's and Holloway's career on fumbling. It's not even close to compare them to Williams and Lee and you know it because you know the numbers. Good coaching job NOT to let Williams get into a bad situation because of conditions. Shump didn't even run against Kentucky. Thank God we have a player who doesn't have an ego and is about team to take a demotion but because of conditions asked to step into a roll that gets him called out constantly by fans but go out there and protect the ball. And we have a coach with enough balls to protect the ball and Williams as a player and then used him in a good situation in game we didn't need him to when. You are trying so hard to hate Mullen on the majority of what he does for what reason I don't know.

ETA. Lee fumbled out of bounds once this year. On 23 or so touches. Holloway 2 fumbles for his career of 152 touches. His whole career.

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Megan, is that you? How was I Seen It in the sack last night after that W?

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Point missed. Re read previous posts and Try again.

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What was missed? He asked why Holloway wasn't punished i.e. missing playing time. Holloway has a track record in games, the young backs do not. And how do we know Holloway hasn't had other punishments? And the fact that Williams hasn't lost playing time and has actually increased carries since his fumble at A & M makes it a moot point.

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Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption

1) Can we please quit with the 'Dan Walsh' bullshit? Mullen has taken our program to heights we've never seen here before, and will keep doing so until he leaves for greener pastures.
2) Dan Mullen is responsible for 3 of the top 6 all-time TD leaders in SEC history. So yeah, he knows offense.
3) You acting like you know more about football than Mullen is ****ing laughable. Seriously. Stop it.

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1) I'll call him Dan Walsh until he actually beats Alabama and doesn't play call like a wuss in a big game.

2) And we would be better if he would actually play our best players.

3) I've been right about every personnel decision this year. Suck it.