Is there any way we could get Howland as the lead recruiter on Derrick Brown when he visits for the Egg Bowl?? :)
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Is there any way we could get Howland as the lead recruiter on Derrick Brown when he visits for the Egg Bowl?? :)
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I seriously doubt anybody watched us play during the Ray years, to form an opinion of our facilities or fan support. They are just assuming that since we are MSU we would be lacking in facilities and fan support.
And pulling support probably did quicken the exit of Ray and entrance of Coach Howland. Which I for one is grateful.( I kept my seats, but didn't attend very many games.)
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Indiana was awesome from the 70's through 90's. Then Bob Knight choked Neil Reed during practice while it was caught on tape. Knight got fired and now Indiana is a middle of the pack B1G school. It's been fifteen years since Knight got fired and IU has had 2-3 good years sprinkled in with about 12 shitty ones. Their only final four since then was with Knight's players.
Funny thing about Kansas and Indiana is they are both Adidas schools. Hey Indiana our Adidas is bigger than your Adidas. Who cares about your practice gym.
Indiana doing what Indiana does... CHOKE!
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I wouldn't call them a middle-of-the-pack B1G program. They haven't been, and probably won't ever again be, Indiana but I would still call them a top program; maybe not among the truly elite anymore, but the next step down. The only Big Ten programs I would say are clearly better as programs right now are Wisconsin and Michigan State. And that could change depending on coaches. Wisconsin may take a dip without Ryan, and Michigan State will find it very hard to maintain without Izzo. Ohio State has had a lot of success under Matta, obviously more than Indiana during that span, but it's pretty much all due to him. If both jobs were open, you'd have a tough time ranking OSU higher than Indiana.
Indiana's problem is that they haven't really made a great hire since Knight. Davis was an awful hire, and even he won a Big Ten title and made the national title game. Sampson looked to be building something special, but then got busted and the sanctions hurt them significantly. Crean is a good coach, but I wouldn't call him a great one...and after it took 4 years to build them back after the mess Sampson left, he now has a Big Ten title, two Sweet 16s, and he's set up for a very good year this year as well.
Again, they're not truly Indiana anymore, but they could still get back to the top relatively easily with the right hire. I would compare them to UCLA pre-Howland or to Michigan football pre-Harbaugh.
I can agree with that, Smoot.
When I think of the top teams in the B1G, I think of Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Indiana.
Indiana and Michigan are in that group based on their history. I don't think Indiana has done anything recently that gives them the right to complain about losing players to MSU though. Over the past couple of decades they haven't been much different from us at all. Today, I think we are in a much better position and the players can see that.
Maryland is currently #3 and has a National Championship since Knight left. I'd rank the B1G programs like this.
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Ohio State
Michigan
Maryland
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
Which pretty much puts Indiana as a middle-tier B1G school. You're drunk if you think Ohio State and IU are even the last 15 years.