Here was another pretty good kicker for us:
Joel Logan 1987-90
41 made field goals (3rd) on 61 attempts (3rd) for a .672 percentage (4th)
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Here was another pretty good kicker for us:
Joel Logan 1987-90
41 made field goals (3rd) on 61 attempts (3rd) for a .672 percentage (4th)
Brauchle was fairly solid too, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Eh. Maybe his first year on long FG. 6-9 his first year with 0-2 from 30-39 yards but 2-3 from over 40 with a 49 yard long. (48 was DePasuale long that year). 3-7 his second year 1-4 from 30-39 yards, 2-3 from 40-49 with 47 long his second year. He had 2 blk as well. He was to be the guy and had the stronger leg but DeP was 5-7 his first 2 years from over 40 and Sean was 4-6. DeP last year hurt his numbers for missing 4 over 40 yards 2-6.Quote:
Originally Posted by missouridawg
Yeah, for some reason I read those as 73.3% as skipped him. I was skimming pretty quick to get those numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He really was a basket case. I was told by a trainer that in practice his kickoffs would go out of the back of the endzone. But come game time, he couldn't even make it to the end zone. I understand not having it mentally together to hit field goals, but not being able to hold it together on a typical, non-end of the game kick off is a different level.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogBear
THIS is the heart of the problem. FG% is a nice stat, but it doesn't tell the whole story. I'd like to see the number of 40+ yard attempts we made under JWS vs Mullen. I'm willing to bet we took way more long FG attempts. Now we just don't bother unless it's 35 yards or less. Those should be chip shots for a legit SEC quality K.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
That said, I fully admit the overall percentages are closer than I figured. And I was really disappointed when Sobiesk didn't come back, because I at least felt like we had a guy who was consistent from 35 and in. Now we're back to Head Case Bell, unless by some miracle we give Graves a shot. But considering Bell is the second coming of Morten Andersen in practice according to Mullen, I won't hold my breath on that. I'd still sell my soul to have Gardner, Hazelwood, Westerfield, or Smith on this team.
That's because like all of Mullen's kickers not named Brauchle or Bell, he didn't have the leg for a kick much beyond 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
You must not value your soul very highly. Hazelwood was 3-8 from 30-39 in 1998, 2-6 from 40-49.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Like I said, people are confusing a clutch game winning FG with actually having a good FG %.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Westerfield was 7/11 from 30-39, and 1/2 40+
Did you read all of that post? His first two years were as good as Sean B with a 48 yard long. And even with his bad last year in long yardage FG he was still 54% for FG over 40 yards for his career. He didn't have the absolute strongest leg we have ever had but he was sneaky long. Just more of fans misrememberingQuote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
What's the bet and what do you consider "way more"?Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Jackie had some good special teams, and some bad special teams. I've never understood the love for his ST's. The bad special teams are what sticks out to me. Not just FG kicking, but I remember giving up TD's and not returning worth a crap.
I do remember the blocked PAT and return in the SnowBowl though!!!! That trumps all except the Westerfield FG against UNM.
I think Jackie is somewhat overrated as a special teams coach. He insisted on Marlin over Brent Smith for a long time. And let's not forget punting to Derek Abney who burned our ass repeatedly- and yet we STILL kicked the ball to him. I remember Jeff Walker having several punts blocked in 1999 despite his reputation as well.
It would be interesting to see a percentage comparison with the other SEC schools. That would come closer to telling us where we are field goal wise.
Remember, a guy like Kevin Butler (UGA) doesn't come along very often.
No, kickers like Butler don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock
Just look at last year -
Bama 12/19 63%
UGA 16/21 76%
Aub 18/24 75%
LSU 11/15 73%
OM 9/16 56%
Ark 9/14 64%
A&M 13/15 86%
FL 19/24 79%
MO 18/25 72%
KY 21/27 78%
SC 18/25 72%
Vandy 20/26 77%
State 12/16 75%
Outside of A&M on the high and OM on the low, everyone is about even.
How dare the OP bring numerical fact into this argument.
And you know what Kevin Butler's % was at UGA on FGs? 77/98 for 79%. If you had asked me, I would have said 95% because that guy was money and that giant kick against Clemson with a 50+ as time runs out and Larry Munson screaming "YEAH YEAH YEAH" convinced me of that.