TSUN at it again $$$$$$$$ as if we didn't know..

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ours is to develop Nick Fitzgerald and let him fight it out with Damien Williams. If there is anything Dan does well, it's develop QB's.

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Don't forget Staley. By no means as Fitzgerald completely passed him.

That battle will almost certainly be a Fitz-Staley battle, I don't see Williams being a big factor.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Don't forget Staley. By no means as Fitzgerald completely passed him.

That battle will almost certainly be a Fitz-Staley battle, I don't see Williams being a big factor.

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I agree .. I think everyone will be VERY happy with what we get out of Staley when it's his time ..

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Not that what Nutt did at Ark has anything to do with Jim Bakker at OM but..... What really happened. Nutt recruited the springdale kids. At the time, Mustain was a living legend in that state. I mean ridiculously worshipped and annointed the next Peyton Manning. Mustain committed to arkansas. Then later opened his recruitment up. Nutt was against hiring Malzhan. But was then told if he didn't hire malzahn and land Mustain, he would be shown the door. Nutt hired Malzahn and all the sprngdale kids. Once on campus, supposedly, he treated Malzahn like sh***. Supposedly Nutt and the DC called him "high school". Being a true freshman, Mustain was 3rd on the depth chart. The fans raised hell and complained of Nutts conservative offense.

Malzahn quit after a year. Mustain transfered. The underground campaign to fire Nutt began.

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Not arguing the story, but didn't Mustain start off 8-0 that hear before Nutt blew it and took control of offense.

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Originally Posted by mic

I agree .. I think everyone will be VERY happy with what we get out of Staley when it's his time ..

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I agree with that but once Tiano gets acclimated I think he surpasses them both. Kind of woolly to think about the future of qb on our team.

Does Ole Miss, I'm sorry the University of Mississippi even bother to teach Ethics are their grand institution?

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

Does Ole Miss, I'm sorry the University of Mississippi even bother to teach Ethics are their grand institution?

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I'll be honest. I don't think it's unethical.

I just think it's a dumb, desperate way to run your business and, de facto, isn't a sustainable business model. I don't blame Ole Miss for doing it, especially when you they haven't been able to develop a high school QB since the Clinton administration, but MSU hasn't had this problem, and thus would be dumb to participate in this sort of strategy.

Yeah I had to refresh my memory. Robert Johnson was a returning senior. He started the 1st game. Mustain started the 2nd and a few more after. Then Casey Dick took over at QB.

I lived over there then. I remember the absolute fire storm and bashing Nutt over his run oriented offense with the greatest QB of all time on the bench. Nevermind they had 3 NFL rbs and made it to the SECCG. They wanted Nutt burned at the stake for mishandling Mustain.

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Originally Posted by MabenMaroon

I agree with that but once Tiano gets acclimated I think he surpasses them both. Kind of woolly to think about the future of qb on our team.

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We'll see. I doubt a redshirt freshman would beat both Fitz and Staley out, but I definitely like that we'll have real competition among talented guys.

Personally, I still believe Staley is the most talented of the group. I haven't seen Fitz or Tiano in person, but I did see Staley, and he looked phenomenal. Very easy arm strength and a really smooth stride for a guy that size. He's massive, athletic, and has a cannon.

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Originally Posted by HailState39110

They haven't developed a QB out of high school since Romaro

1) Schaffer - transfer from TN
2) Snead - Transfer from Texas
3) Masoli - transfer from Oregon
4) Wallace - transfer from Arkansas St / JUCO
5) now Machine Gun Kelly - transfer from Clemson / JUCO

By all accounts if this kid ever starts it will be 10+ years since OM had a starting QB that actually was recruited out of high school to play there. I would be a little concerned by that stat if I was a qualit D1 high school QB recruit

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Romaro "developed"?

I must have missed that.

Hey TUSK! Where ya been?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'll be honest. I don't think it's unethical.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I just think it's a dumb, desperate way to run your business and, de facto, isn't a sustainable business model. I don't blame Ole Miss for doing it, especially when you they haven't been able to develop a high school QB since the Clinton administration, but MSU hasn't had this problem, and thus would be dumb to participate in this sort of strategy.

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I actually think it is pretty damn smart. It probably is not sustainable, but I see very little risk and the potential for huge rewards. Its not like they hired his brother to be the offensive coordinator....they hired him as the associate director for recruiting operations. And they are getting one of the top QB recruits in the country to act as a centerpiece for their 2016 recruiting class. The absolute worst case scenario is that he turns out to be a bust that doesn't live up to his star rating and he isn't able to attract any other highly rated recruits. Best case is that he pans out and gives them 3-4 years of very good quarterback play and is able to help attract a few other high profile guys to OM. I would roll those dice every single time.

It may not be illegal but it is definitely in question of being unethical. They are doing just enough to clear the law and ignoring the spirit of the law. If the NCAA wants to maintain a modicum of respect they should make this practice illegal immediately. But we all know that the NCAA is a laughing stock. I am glad that State avoids such desperate measures.