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Originally Posted by smootness

David Boyd is a legend in GA, though he's also a controversial guy. He's coached TONS of talent, though. He was at Berkmar when they dominated the state, then eventually ended up at Milton (where Ryan Gridley came from), and they were just absurdly good for 4-5 years. Ultimately they let him go after the program got hammered over recruiting players and such. He's won 6 state titles at the highest levels in the state, though.

But he has definitely seen a ridiculous amount of talent in his day. He's coached against Wheeler and Norcross and all the top schools in GA that constantly produce major talent.

He also tweeted this - 'Scouts: don't forget to include heart, desire, and guts in your rankings: Tookie Brown is a FIVE star. The best when the best is needed!'
Also - 'I tried box and 1; triangle and 2; straight man; sagging man; zone; nothing worked against Tookie Brown. Best I have seen.'

Boyd is kind of a shady guy with regard to how he runs programs, but again, he's no doubt seen his share of talent. Pretty cool to have him say that about Tookie.

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The Boyd Brothers are definitely GA Basketball Legends. Cal was great player. The teams from Campbell (82 State Champ) that David coached and Cal was the PG for were unreal. 1980s basketball in Cobb County/Marietta was fun to be around as a kid. Marietta (83 State Champ) had Cedric Henderson (famously signed LOI to 3 schools before "landing" at UGA), and the battles against Campbell were wild.

If you want to see Tookie in the final, you can watch here: http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/associations/ghsa

I'll be watching our local Brunswick High Pirates take on Alatoona for the 5A title.

Tookie Monster and Weatherspoon are def going to be solid bench players for us next year...Houston gets better by the game now...Black defends but needs work on the offensive end...We have some solid young guys for the future- just need more of them

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Originally Posted by TXDawg

Watch the women play. Vic's assistants are CONSTANTLY talking to him during play, pointing out things. They also talk to players that have just been pulled for various reasons.

Vic's assistants are actively involved in the coaching of the game.

Not saying which method is better, just pointing out that they're polar opposites.

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I don't know if it's a difference in the way most women's coaches handle thing vs. men's coaches, or if it's just what Schaefer likes, but again, 99.5% of men's assistants look exactly like our assistants look during the game.

You do see a few teams who have the assistants 'look' more involved, but it is likely just a preference thing from the coach. It certainly doesn't mean the assistants aren't actually doing anything.

Some coaches don't like a bunch of different voices yelling things during games. Like Smoot- our guys look like everybody else's assistants.

I could easily see a scenario where next year when Weatherspoon & Tookie are playing together we have Weatherspoon initiating the offense & Tookie playing more off the ball. I think it plays into each players strengths.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I could easily see a scenario where next year when Weatherspoon & Tookie are playing together we have Weatherspoon initiating the offense & Tookie playing more off the ball. I think it plays into each players strengths.

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I hope they both get tons of playing time. There's really nothing to lose, this teams needs go-to guys more than just added pieces, so I'll take some freshman mistakes if it means we inject a dynamic component into the offense.

I do think Ready and Tookie will play together a good bit as well. Ready is the classic pass-first PG, though he can score as well as just about anybody on the team, but Tookie is pure scorer.

Realistically your gonna see Ready playing 25 mins or so a game with Tookie getting 15 mins...Sword getting 30 mins/game...Weatherspoon getting about 15 also from Sword and then Spoon and Sword playing some mins together is my guess

That's a 2 deep rotation per game- what I don't see is playing for an undersized 2 guard that we have redshirting currently

Daniel need to be prepared to play some 4 because Houston is coming & coming strong at the 3. You also have Fred who is going to take some minutes there. Play small & press & rotate guys in & out.

Daniels doesn't have the mentality to play the 4. He's too soft and lacks aggressiveness. This is where Ray has really botched our roster. We have almost nothing offensively from the 4 and 5 positions on this roster or coming in. And while Zuppardo adds the 3 pt element, he isn't the answer for this team's post issues. People also brag on this teams defensive efforts but if you really watch them most of that comes from the guards. Our post defense is actually pretty bad.

I just don't see any way that next year is going to be a postseason season, even NIT, unless Ray decides to trim some of the fat. Ndoye is a nice story but he's nothing more than a 10-15 min game guy at this level. And if we are expecting on him to be more than that then we're seriously screwed. Black could be a Brandon Vincent clone IF ... he develops.

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Daniels doesn't have the mentality to play the 4. He's too soft and lacks aggressiveness. This is where Ray has really botched our roster. We have almost nothing offensively from the 4 and 5 positions on this roster or coming in. And while Zuppardo adds the 3 pt element, he isn't the answer for this team's post issues. People also brag on this teams defensive efforts but if you really watch them most of that comes from the guards. Our post defense is actually pretty bad.

I just don't see any way that next year is going to be a postseason season, even NIT, unless Ray decides to trim some of the fat. Ndoye is a nice story but he's nothing more than a 10-15 min game guy at this level. And if we are expecting on him to be more than that then we're seriously screwed. Black could be a Brandon Vincent clone IF ... he develops.

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Our most consistent player this year has been our starting 4 Roq Johnson.

PG- Ready, Tookie Monster
SG- Chicken, Spoon
SF- Houston, Fred
PF- Zuppardo and Black
C- Ware and Endo

Daniels needs to find something he can do- and Dunlap needs to look at a transfer imo

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Our most consistent player this year has been our starting 4 Roq Johnson.

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And that says it all right there

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Originally Posted by Coach34

PG- Ready, Tookie Monster
SG- Chicken, Spoon
SF- Houston, Fred
PF- Zuppardo and Black
C- Ware and Endo

Daniels needs to find something he can do- and Dunlap needs to look at a transfer imo

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With our shooting woes Dunlap could find an important role on this team if teams continue to zone us as much as they do. He's not a heavy rotation guy but we still don't have any great shooters & he can be that.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

With our shooting woes Dunlap could find an important role on this team if teams continue to zone us as much as they do. He's not a heavy rotation guy but we still don't have any great shooters & he can be that.

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I would agree with this, but if he/s not getting time on this team, it's hard to see that changing. Our shooting probably won't be quite this bad again.

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Originally Posted by smootness

I would agree with this, but if he/s not getting time on this team, it's hard to see that changing. Our shooting probably won't be quite this bad again.

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Well once he got back healthy we were 4 or 5 games in the SEC schedule & our rotation was set. We saw he was still eligible to get a RS so we did the right thing. Will we be as bad prolly not with Weatherspoon & Zuppardo. Will be a good or even an avg 3pt shooting team? I don't believe so. Zuppardo is a pretty good catch & shoot guy but Weatherspoon is streaky. On a team with very few shooters I don't think you can tell potentially your best shooter adios. If we were a better scoring team yea but a team who struggles to get to 60 no way.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Well once he got back healthy we were 4 or 5 games in the SEC schedule & our rotation was set. We saw he was still eligible to get a RS so we did the right thing. Will we be as bad prolly not with Weatherspoon & Zuppardo. Will be a good or even an avg 3pt shooting team? I don't believe so. Zuppardo is a pretty good catch & shoot guy but Weatherspoon is streaky. On a team with very few shooters I don't think you can tell potentially your best shooter adios. If we were a better scoring team yea but a team who struggles to get to 60 no way.

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I don't think we should tell him to leave, but he may make that decision on his own. He may play some next year, but I can't see it being a lot. A 6'1" guard whose only real asset is his shooting and isn't much of a defender may be able to play a few minutes here and there, but I'm not sure it will be enough to satisfy him.

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Originally Posted by smootness

I don't think we should tell him to leave, but he may make that decision on his own. He may play some next year, but I can't see it being a lot. A 6'1" guard whose only real asset is his shooting and isn't much of a defender may be able to play a few minutes here and there, but I'm not sure it will be enough to satisfy him.

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Now that I'm ok with. Honestly I only want him for a few minutes here or there. Someone has gone to a zone & we're having 1 of our patented droughts. Break the glass on Dunlap & let him fire away a few times see if we can get them out of the zone. If he's not happy with that role expand your skill set or transfer. I don't think that is unreasonable.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

PG- Ready, Tookie Monster
SG- Chicken, Spoon
SF- Houston, Fred
PF- Zuppardo and Black
C- Ware and Endo

Daniels needs to find something he can do- and Dunlap needs to look at a transfer imo

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Maybe Daniels can Tutor Algebra**

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Now that I'm ok with. Honestly I only want him for a few minutes here or there. Someone has gone to a zone & we're having 1 of our patented droughts. Break the glass on Dunlap & let him fire away a few times see if we can get them out of the zone. If he's not happy with that role expand your skill set or transfer. I don't think that is unreasonable.

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For once can we please get some positive turnover from Ray. Use the Dunlap scholly to sign a very good 6'6 skill player (dribbling, passing, shooting) that's a Juco or immediately ready transfer or use it to sign a wide body power forward. We need some weight on a dude down low. Under the rim space eater that hustles. Black and Ndoye both look lost to me on the floor. They have nice height but they really don't offer anything else but height and every blue moon they get a block or dunk.