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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Stans, Strick & Bracky will never work together again in any capacity.

We can get a better coach. Just someone who plays an exciting brand of basketball, running the floor, with pressure on D would be nice. I'd make Shaka take the job if I was Strick. I'd give him $2M a year if needed just for that brand of basketball. It's a perfect time for an up and coming coach to take over an SEC program. The league is down considerably and could be easy to make a run in with just 5-7 decent players.

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No chance of ever getting Shaka. He can have any job he wants. He's already turned down UCLA.

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Originally Posted by C222

No chance of ever getting Shaka. He can have any job he wants. He's already turned down UCLA.

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and Illinois. That's when he was hot and winning at VCU. He's since returned to earth and possibly realized that he's not going to be able to reproduce those results as easily as he thought.

Assuming he won't leave is like saying Peterson will never leave Boise... see how that worked? He didn't go to USC.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

and Illinois. That's when he was hot and winning at VCU. He's since returned to earth and possibly realized that he's not going to be able to reproduce those results as easily as he thought.

Assuming he won't leave is like saying Peterson will never leave Boise... see how that worked? He didn't go to USC.

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I don't see how he's returned to earth?

RPI
2010 - #46
2011 - #31
2012 - #34
2013 - #26
2014 - #19
2015 - currently #4, predicted to finish at #2

He might not have made another deep run in March yet, but if anything, his stock has continued to go up as he's shown himself capable of sustaining VCU at a very high level, and actually improved their overall body of work every year he's been there... Shaka's stock is as high as it's ever been IMO...

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm sure no one agrees with me, but I'd like stansbury to at least be interviewed if ray is fired this year. I'm not saying make him our primary target, but at least keep him in mind. Perhaps the time off helped recharge him and helped him see his past mistakes. Stansbury has won here, so I think he could do it again. We hired Richard Williams so we forgave him for embarrassing our university. Why not at least see what stansbury has to say in an interview?

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You should ban yourself for this.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

if money is a problem for our programs, it's because we're mismanaging it, not due to a lack of it.

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Completely agree. Just saying if one of our "big 3" has to suck, basketball makes the most sense. We aren't, and shouldn't, short changing football and baseball. That said, we definitely have the money to pour into our programs now. We'll see if we've got an AD willing to spend that cash to make more money or if we've got an AD content to be "in the black."

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm sure no one agrees with me, but I'd like stansbury to at least be interviewed if ray is fired this year. I'm not saying make him our primary target, but at least keep him in mind. Perhaps the time off helped recharge him and helped him see his past mistakes. Stansbury has won here, so I think he could do it again. We hired Richard Williams so we forgave him for embarrassing our university. Why not at least see what stansbury has to say in an interview?

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Literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted here. Congrats, you've just surpassed Goat levels of dumbassedness.

http://i.imgur.com/oHfd32H.gif

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

You should ban yourself for this.

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Probably so :)

I should at least ban myself from watching our basketball games the rest of the year. I think watching these games is what led to my opinion above

Watch other teams like LSU, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Duke, UNC, and Mich St. All are fun to watch. A&M is gonna spank us.

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Originally Posted by engie

He's making $1.5 at VCU with a auto-extending 10, essentially 15, year contract. And all kinds of perks for every level of their program beyond that. It'd take closer to $3mil to buy him, and I'm not even sure he can be bought, as others have tried and failed...

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We called Shaka before hiring Ray- he said it would take $3MM for him to even consider it

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Originally Posted by RBritt

Watch other teams like LSU, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Duke, UNC, and Mich St. All are fun to watch. A&M is gonna spank us.

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Kennedy is a good coach at A&M- he's needed recruiting help. They found it

That Tennessee team that beat us by double digits in the Hump has 36 points at home against Alabama with under 2 minutes to go.

Basketball will turn around after this next hire. Name a search committee already.

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Originally Posted by engie

I don't see how he's returned to earth?

RPI
2010 - #46
2011 - #31
2012 - #34
2013 - #26
2014 - #19
2015 - currently #4, predicted to finish at #2

He might not have made another deep run in March yet, but if anything, his stock has continued to go up as he's shown himself capable of sustaining VCU at a very high level, and actually improved their overall body of work every year he's been there... Shaka's stock is as high as it's ever been IMO...

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Sorry, but if regular season results mattered more than the tournament, Stans could still be the head coach at Mississippi State. The tournament is all that matters.

I used to drive up from Jackson every Wednesday for games and then drive right back home after the game. Loved watching our team. I spent like $100 bucks per ticket on terrible seats one game just bc I wanted to get in and it was a sell out.

Now, I wouldn't go if there was hundy taped to a free courtside seat along with a lottery ticket. The fact that Ray was ever named, and still remains, our coach...is one of the most inexplicable things I've ever seen an AD do.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Sorry, but if regular season results mattered more than the tournament, Stans could still be the head coach at Mississippi State. The tournament is all that matters.

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So, you'd define a basketball coach solely on the tournament? A tournament he's made a final 4 in already at a school that had never previously made the round of 16?

The level of Shaka's program is still improving. His stock is not down. It's never been higher. He's not coaching Kentucky -- he's coaching VCU.

This is begetting of a lifetime contract in your opinion if he'd actually made the round of 16 in one of the 5 glory years? In spite of never attaining that level again in 7 years thereafter? The Sweet 16 may have been the rallying cry -- but the dropoff in the level of the teams along with the lack of discipline was Stansbury's ultimate downfall. A victim of his own success, perhaps.

Stansbury:
2012: 83
2011: 121
2010: 61
2009: 66
2008: 41
2007: 59
2006: 108
2005: 30
2004: 8
2003: 27
2002: 12
2001: 34
2000: 140
1999: 93

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Originally Posted by engie

So, you'd define a basketball coach solely on the tournament? A tournament he's made a final 4 in already at a school that had never previously made the round of 16?

The level of Shaka's program is still improving. His stock is not down. It's never been higher. He's not coaching Kentucky -- he's coaching VCU.

This is begetting of a lifetime contract in your opinion if he'd actually made the round of 16 in one of the 5 glory years? In spite of never attaining that level again in 7 years thereafter? The Sweet 16 may have been the rallying cry -- but the dropoff in the level of the teams along with the lack of discipline was Stansbury's ultimate downfall. A victim of his own success, perhaps.

Stansbury:
2012: 83
2011: 121
2010: 61
2009: 66
2008: 41
2007: 59
2006: 108
2005: 30
2004: 8
2003: 27
2002: 12
2001: 34
2000: 140
1999: 93

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How much of Ray's salary would he give up to have an RPI of 140?

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

How much of Ray's salary would he give up to have an RPI of 140?

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Zero dollars

140 is not the goal. Nor was the last 7 years of Stansbury. Being worse now doesn't make us good enough before.

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Originally Posted by engie

Zero dollars

140 is not the goal. Nor was the last 7 years of Stansbury. Being worse now doesn't make us good enough before.

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Don't overthink my attempt at a joke.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Sorry, but if regular season results mattered more than the tournament, Stans could still be the head coach at Mississippi State. The tournament is all that matters.

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The tournament is mostly a crapshoot. I promise you schools are not evaluating coaches largely on their tournament success.

Just because Smart made one unbelievable run doesn't mean that not repeating that means his stock is now down. Give me another coach you feel confident could EVER take VCU to the Final 4.

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Originally Posted by smootness

The tournament is mostly a crapshoot. I promise you schools are not evaluating coaches largely on their tournament success.

Just because Smart made one unbelievable run doesn't mean that not repeating that means his stock is now down. Give me another coach you feel confident could EVER take VCU to the Final 4.

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Calipari

He did it at umass.