Who to pitch Friday?

[QUOTE=Will James;22415]In my opinion we will need more from the SP in a CWS best of 3 played on consecutive days. Lindgren, when on, is easily our most effective starter. He gives up less fly balls than Kendall. Starting Kendall On Friday makes me doubt his effectiveness going on Mon OR Tues. that would only be 2 and 3 days rest. We have to start looking at what will give us the best chance to win it all. QUOTE]

Couldn't agree less. You have to GET to the championship series before you try to win it all. Do whatever it takes to get there and then make your adjustments.

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Originally Posted by Will James

In my opinion we will need more from the SP in a CWS best of 3 played on consecutive days. Lindgren, when on, is easily our most effective starter. He gives up less fly balls than Kendall. Starting Kendall On Friday makes me doubt his effectiveness going on Mon OR Tues. that would only be 2 and 3 days rest. We have to start looking at what will give us the best chance to win it all.

Therefore I feel that Graveman has to throw Game 1 Monday, hopefully against a non-ace. Advantage State. Then we come back with Fitts/Pollo for game 2 vs their ace and pray, and Game 3 again with our best guy if he's on Lindgren who will be well rested against a non-ace and hopefully depleted pen.

So I say Lindgren Friday. Graveman Monday. Fitts/Pollo Tues. Lindgren Wed.

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I can live with that. Here is my question. Assuming we went with the above but lost on Friday. Who would you then pitch on Saturday?

Couldn't agree less. You have to GET to the championship series before you try to win it all. Do whatever it takes to get there and then make your adjustments

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Originally Posted by MarcoRubio

not spitting in the face of someones religion? A bit insensitive, no? Are you just trying to be an ass?

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I agree. Kind of. I thnk you have to play your best chance to win Friday as it gives you such an advantage for the Champ series.

However, without knowing who we are playing it is much harder. The best case for us would be to take care of business on Friday and have a forced extra game from the other side of the bracket. In any case, our greatest advantage is no one knows who is coming out of the pen until they walk through the gate. I'm sure that makes the other teams crazy. I hope for Friday we put Evan Mitchell, Myles Gentry, Will Cox and Shelly in the pen to warm up for a while.

You cant make it to the finals if you don't win one on Friday. I guess we probably start Graveman the second game on Friday if we even have to play it. Hopefully staff will get it done in the first game

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Originally Posted by hometowndawg

You cant make it to the finals if you don't win one on Friday. I guess we probably start Graveman the second game on Friday if we even have to play it.

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First game on Friday. Second game (if necessary) would be Saturday.

You of all people. You will ridicule Ole Miss relentlessly for being racist, yet you want people to relax when a religion is insulted? Hypocrite.

This shouldn't be a discussion. Graveman goes Friday. He's rested and we have to win Friday to have the best chance to win the whole thing. Then he is available for short innings on Tuesday if we are in an elimination scenario or can go in game 3 as the starter in a winner take all. Also it doesn't make a flying shit who we play. If the pitcher executes it doesn't matter the team he faces. Play against the game not against a team.

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Originally Posted by Goat Holder

You of all people. You will ridicule Ole Miss relentlessly for being racist, yet you want people to relax when a religion is insulted? Hypocrite.

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Aint nobody insulting a religion. Untwist those panties.

If Graveman is ready, you have to throw him. We are severely limited with starting pitching. Therefore, we want to use the only reliable starter that we have as much as possible. Allow Graveman, the senior, to put us on his shoulders. Quick hook in favor of Ross Mitchell and Bracewell, though. Keep the pitch count down so he will be ready to go again in the championship.

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Originally Posted by Hump4Hoops

Untwist those panties.

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Nice shaming attempt. But I'm not letting it go. And you're right, Christianity isn't just a "religion".

would ya'll please quit talking about religion? isn't there like a religion board some where for you to go with that? religion and politics. why bring either up on an MSU sports board when the dawgs are in Omaha and one game away from the national title game.

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Originally Posted by Goat Holder

Graveman all day. Not even a choice.

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Graveman already has been seen by Or St. I say if they win, throw someone else and let Girado come in a pitch middle relief.

No use giving them something they have seen. I would be a fan of Fritz. That guy only had one hitter tag him yesterday.

I'm definitely on board with Lindgren on Friday. If he is on, he can give us a really solid start. Plus, if we were to lose Friday, I would feel a lot better about our chances of winning the rematch if Graveman was going.

We just have to make it to the Championship and burn that bridge when we get there. You can't start planning ahead or you will never get there.

Planning ahead is what you are doing if you don't start Graveman. It's not a regional and Jackson State waiting on us if we happen to lose. We have to win this game.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Planning ahead is what you are doing if you don't start Graveman. It's not a regional and Jackson State waiting on us if we happen to lose. We have to win this game.

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True, but Graveman could start game 2 against the team if we lose Friday. I'm not against Graveman on Friday, but if you think he gives you our best chance to win, what will it hurt to wait a day and hope we can get by without using him?

In other words, if we were in an elimination game Friday, you DEFINITELY start Graveman, but we aren't. Plus, Lindgren is more than capable of beating Indiana or Oregon St if he's on. And what if Graveman pitches Friday and loses? Would you rather have a Lindgren or Fitts starting the elimination game?! Or the one with less pressure? I would want Graveman in the most pressure packed game.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

True, but Graveman could start game 2 against the team if we lose Friday. I'm not against Graveman on Friday, but if you think he gives you our best chance to win, what will it hurt to wait a day and hope we can get by without using him?

In other words, if we were in an elimination game Friday, you DEFINITELY start Graveman, but we aren't. Plus, Lindgren is more than capable of beating Indiana or Oregon St if he's on. And what if Graveman pitches Friday and loses? Would you rather have a Lindgren or Fitts starting the elimination game?! Or the one with less pressure? I would want Graveman in the most pressure packed game.

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Graveman should start Friday- if he's 100% (and I don't see why he wouldn't be). If you start Graveman in Game 2 and win to make it to the final series he wouldn't be available unitl Game 3 of the final series- which isn't guaranteed. I don't want to plan ahead, but this way you kill two birds with one stone.

I like Bracewell starting over Lindgren anyway if you do change it up.

Lindgren hasnt pitched in a long while and not under any pressure like Fitts, Graveman, Ross, Giro, Holder have faced. You pitch Graveman, Ross Friday and if they get beat you go Fitts, Giro on Saturday. The same thing we have been doing the whole post-season. I just don't see the benefit in holding out KG and gambling (trusting) Lindgren, Pollo, Bracewell or anybody else to start a game as important as Fridays.

I think having Graveman Friday and available to carry a full load for a Game 3 (which makes 2 full games) outweighs saving him for a maybe Saturday game and if he has to pitch Saturday we only have him for a short stint in title series. Which will make every game we play after Friday a staff game. One of the main reasons our pitching model is working is because we have a guy that can give us 5-8 innings up front. That is especially true in a situation where we might have to play 5 games in 6 days to win a title. I'd rather have him with the opportunity to pitch 2 long outings than one and a short stint.

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Graveman should start Friday- if he's 100% (and I don't see why he wouldn't be). If you start Graveman in Game 2 and win to make it to the final series he wouldn't be available unitl Game 3 of the final series- which isn't guaranteed. I don't want to plan ahead, but this way you kill two birds with one stone.

I like Bracewell starting over Lindgren anyway if you do change it up.

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I'm cool with that about Graveman. I'd just love to have him for game 1 of the Championship if at all possible...and with Friday not being an elimination game, it IS possible. But I'm ok with Grave going Friday for sure.

As for Lindgren vs Brace, I would be fine with either...BUT the best hitters on OSU and IU are their Lefties. With that being said, I feel like Lindgren could have some Girodo-esque success with his slider against them.