there's been a great deal of discussion re: Tiebreakers, so I ran the numbers....

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

10-16-2014, 12:43 AM
mstatefan91

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Correct, we would win it then.

With TSUN losing to AU. I left that out
10-16-2014, 12:45 AM
TUSK

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

If we didn't go to the SEC championship, as a one loss team, because Auburn got to play more difficult Eastern division opponents, then the playoff committee would have to consider the winner of the Egg Bowl as a 2nd SEC team in the playoff. It would be absurd to be knocked out of the playoffs because of a rule like that, especially when we would've beaten the team that would be in the SEC championship

the sec will not get 2 playoff teams unless there are some specific upsets outside the sec & a few games decided by narrow margins within the SEC... it just won't happen...

I know it sounds "homerish", but the title still will be decided in Tuscaloosa...

I just wish bama would get their shit together...
10-16-2014, 12:54 AM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstatefan91

With TSUN losing to AU. I left that out

That wouldn't matter because if we have one loss and beat Ole Miss, then we have the tie breaker over them.
10-16-2014, 12:55 AM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUSK

the sec will not get 2 playoff teams unless there are some specific upsets outside the sec & a few games decided by narrow margins within the SEC... it just won't happen...

I know it sounds "homerish", but the title still will be decided in Tuscaloosa...

I just wish bama would get their shit together...

Between who?
10-16-2014, 12:59 AM
TUSK

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Between who?

with the assumption that OM does not win out:

the MSU@Bama & the AU@Bama games will decide the SECW, and likely the SECC and NC.
10-16-2014, 08:19 AM
Political Hack

Even if we lose to Bama and beat OM, we're likely in. We'll have the head to head over Auburn and SOW (Slave Owner's Wife). I fully expect Bama to drop at least one more game, if not two.
10-16-2014, 08:38 AM
maroonmania

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstatefan91

Yeah Auburn having an advantage doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

As much as I hate to say it, if Auburn ends up in a tie with multiple teams for the lead in the West they deserve it. They will have played @MSU, @OM, @AL and @GA. That is the worst road draw in the entire SEC BY FAR. OM ended up with the best schedule getting all 3 of the other real contenders for the West at home (AL, AUB, MSU). OM has the best shot for the West right now based on upcoming schedule given they will be favored in all road games and have both Auburn and us still left at home. Certainly will be an interesting second half of the season.
10-16-2014, 08:47 AM
Johnson85

So do you not go head to head after eliminating one team using the tie breaker? Pretty sure that used to be how the tie breakers worked.
10-16-2014, 09:45 AM
spiritual_machine2005

From what I understand, I may be completely wrong, but if there is a 3 way tie, they look at cross divisional records to eliminate ONE team. Then, when it's down to just the two remaining teams, it goes to the two team tie breaker, which is always settled by head to head. So, if its UM, AUB, and MSU all tied, then UM would probably be eliminated because KY/Vandy would probably be a better record than TN/Vandy. Of course that is yet to be determined. So after UM is eliminated, it would go to head to head between AUB and MSU, where we would win because we beat AUB. Is this right? Now, if there is a 4 way tie, say with UM, AUB, MSU, and UA, then we would be the second team eliminated (after UM) using the cross divisional records, and then it would go to head to head between AUB and UA. Right?
10-16-2014, 12:00 PM
PMDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUSK

the short version is this:

there seems to be no possibility of a 4 way tie.

in the event of a 3 way tie, Auburn will smoke bama, MSU and OM.

also, in the event of a 3 way tie, OM will not win out over anyone....

summary: MSU and Bammers best hope (in the event of a tie) is that the tie is with OM (and not AU)...

What if our 1 loss just happened to be to Kentucky? I think then we win out in a 3 way tie b/c our west record would be 6-0, right?
10-16-2014, 12:24 PM
RAYn_Man

Just win baby win.
10-16-2014, 12:43 PM
Tdawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUSK

the short version is this:

there seems to be no possibility of a 4 way tie.

in the event of a 3 way tie, Auburn will smoke bama, MSU and OM.

also, in the event of a 3 way tie, OM will not win out over anyone....

summary: MSU and Bammers best hope (in the event of a tie) is that the tie is with OM (and not AU)...

Aren't the 3-way tiebreakers just used to eliminate 1 team and then it goes to head-to-head among the two remaining? Not sure how that would change things, but I feel like I remember that being the case?
10-16-2014, 12:51 PM
Political Hack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tdawg

Aren't the 3-way tiebreakers just used to eliminate 1 team and then it goes to head-to-head among the two remaining? Not sure how that would change things, but I feel like I remember that being the case?

hope so. if so, we've got a big advantage right now.
10-16-2014, 03:00 PM
I seen it dawg

The only tiebreakers needed will be for the non playoff bowl games that we won't have to worry about.
10-16-2014, 03:26 PM
archdog

Well everyone needs two losses then.
10-16-2014, 04:00 PM
nsvltndog

The tough part about this rule is that not a single team in the tie breaker scenario had any say in their 2014 East schedule. There is nothing that any of them could have done to impact the situation w/ the possible exception of years ago when Ole Miss fought so hard to maintain their bitter rivalry with Vanderbilt.
10-16-2014, 04:21 PM
TUSK

Quote:

Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

The only tiebreakers needed will be for the non playoff bowl games that we won't have to worry about.

Bowl selection committees don't care about tiebreakers.
10-16-2014, 08:22 PM
LiterallyPolice

Here are the details for both 2 and 3 team ties.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/201...eaker-in-2014/

If the 3 team tiebreaker eliminates ONLY one team, then the 2 team tiebreaker is used. Unfortunately that probably would not apply to the situation of MSU/UM/AUB.... because the strength of Auburns cross divisional opponents (USC, UGA) will probably be enough to eliminate both MSU and UM from the tiebreaker, leaving Auburn as the champ.
10-16-2014, 08:32 PM
Aces High

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUSK

the short version is this:

there seems to be no possibility of a 4 way tie.

in the event of a 3 way tie, Auburn will smoke bama, MSU and OM.

also, in the event of a 3 way tie, OM will not win out over anyone....

summary: MSU and Bammers best hope (in the event of a tie) is that the tie is with OM (and not AU)...

Well I guess there is only 1 thing left to do then....
10-16-2014, 10:36 PM
Quaoarsking

We can hope that Kentucky goes 6-2, with Georgia 4-4 and South Carolina 2-6. That would tie us with Auburn and send it back to head-to-head.

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page