Why is anybody upset about Ole Missus being in the preseason AP Top 25?

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08-18-2014, 12:58 AM
MarketingBully01

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Originally Posted by randyholloway

I think if Freeze fails to post a winning season *AND* loses the Egg Bowl in Oxford he's out. The recruiting will never get any better than what they've had over the past two years and they are not rational, they expect results immediately. I think he has to bowl to keep his job this year.

Most people expect them to do this, but I do not. I think they're vulnerable on the road against A&M, at a neutral site against Boise, and that Tennessee could surprise them. If they were to lose those games (big "if", no doubt), anything can happen.

The Boise game could be telling. They seem to be concentrating too much on bringing croots into their camp the last two weekends instead of concentrating on their preseason camp. It would not surprise me if Boise beats them.
08-18-2014, 01:40 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Louisiana-Lafayette is going to beat UMiss. Book it.

I think ULL will keep it close, but I just don't think they have the horses to pull it off.
08-18-2014, 05:51 AM
BeastMan

I'm being serious as a heart attack when I say, top to bottom, this is the most talented team in my lifetime. More talented than 2008 and more than 03 (or any Eli team for that matter). I think 08 was more talented than the Eli years and you could argue 08 vs now but I think there is more overall roster talent right now. This is the most talented Ole Miss team in their history.
08-18-2014, 05:53 AM
BeastMan

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think ULL will keep it close, but I just don't think they have the horses to pull it off.

Rewatch ULL vs Arky last year... UPig ran Hudd off the field. ULL vs OM won't be a game. Boise will be a better game IMO
08-18-2014, 07:17 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Rewatch ULL vs Arky last year... UPig ran Hudd off the field. ULL vs OM won't be a game. Boise will be a better game IMO

Two different types of teams between Arky and UMiss. I think this is the year Hud gets his big time win. UMiss isn't physical enough for Hud's team. They are too finesse.
08-18-2014, 07:21 AM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

Rewatch ULL vs Arky last year... UPig ran Hudd off the field. ULL vs OM won't be a game. Boise will be a better game IMO

that was early, and OM can't pound anyone. Think about Washington state almost beating Auburn last year early. Similar in my opinion.

I don't expect ULaLa to win, but I think it'll actually be close. Broadway Terrance can make plays with that receiving corps.
08-18-2014, 07:24 AM
BeastMan

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

that was early, and OM can't pound anyone. Think about Washington state almost beating Auburn last great early. Similar in my opinion.

2-way street. Early Arky lost to Florida 30-10 and Bama & SoCar beat them in consecutive weeks 104-7.
08-18-2014, 07:35 AM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

I'm being serious as a heart attack when I say, top to bottom, this is the most talented team in my lifetime. More talented than 2008 and more than 03 (or any Eli team for that matter). I think 08 was more talented than the Eli years and you could argue 08 vs now but I think there is more overall roster talent right now. This is the most talented Ole Miss team in their history.

Ask Texas what talent means the last few seasons. You could have the best talent in football, but still blow because your scheme is predictable and has been figured out. Not to mention all the "me me me" mentalities on that team. This along with the talent being top heavy and dismal depth, spell a potential disaster of a season, despite the perceived "talent".
08-18-2014, 07:39 AM
bulldawg28

The rebels should be ranked in the top 10 and should make the playoffs this year. They're the only team in the SEC that has a three year returning starter.
08-18-2014, 07:49 AM
starkvegasdawg

I'm just ready for the season to start. That will answer everybody's questions. No more speculation. No more wondering. No more conjecture. Time for everybody to put up or shut up. We think we should be ranked? We get to prove why. TSUN over hyped? Time to find out. Is LSU really going to be down this year? Let's all see together.
08-18-2014, 08:00 AM
headcoach98

Running team will kill the yogis once again this year
08-18-2014, 08:03 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

I'm being serious as a heart attack when I say, top to bottom, this is the most talented team in my lifetime. More talented than 2008 and more than 03 (or any Eli team for that matter). I think 08 was more talented than the Eli years and you could argue 08 vs now but I think there is more overall roster talent right now. This is the most talented Ole Miss team in their history.

i agree. Sylvester Crooms could win 8-9 games with the talent OM has
08-18-2014, 08:52 AM
Liverpooldawg

If doesn't win 10 this year he will be on his way out. It's the most talent they have had since 1959, right? In all seriousness he better win 8 and he HAS to beat us. If he doesn't he will survive till next year but he will be a fired coach coaching.
08-18-2014, 09:10 AM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock

What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired?

I know you said "besides State", but that's it to me. Lose to MSU in Oxford and he's feeling the pressure of pissed off fans and administration.
08-18-2014, 09:20 AM
FISHDAWG

wins against Texas and LSU will buffer this somewhat ... the guy has been there two years and has taken them to two bowl games along with one pretty good cruitin class ... he has some time left
08-18-2014, 09:29 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

I know you said "besides State", but that's it to me. Lose to MSU in Oxford and he's feeling the pressure of pissed off fans and administration.

Well if he loses to the preseason 36th ranked team at home with the most talented OM team in history that would be quite the embarrassing loss for ol' Bucky.
08-18-2014, 09:37 AM
archdog

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Originally Posted by Coach34

They have 3 Preseason AA's
They have Bo Dirt
They had a highly ranked Crootin class in 2013

Hell yeah they should be ranked 18th. They are going to be awesome this year. With that kind of talent- any coach could win 9-10 games. Shirley they wont underachieve this year and will most certainly live up to the hype? When they have ever failed to live up to the hype before? This is Ole Missus we talking about.

They are awesome and should beat Boise by 20 points.

No way they don't win 10 games. Too bad they will lose yo Bama and MsU and come in third.
08-18-2014, 10:14 AM
Joe Schmedlap

The Bears deserve to be ranked somewhere between 20 and 25 IF you believe in preseason polls. I'm not upset about that at all. The Bulldogs probably ought to be in the top 28. But, show me a poll after 2 to 3 weekends of play. Preseason polls are based on perception rather than reality.
08-18-2014, 11:31 AM
Goat Holder

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

I'm being serious as a heart attack when I say, top to bottom, this is the most talented team in my lifetime. More talented than 2008 and more than 03 (or any Eli team for that matter). I think 08 was more talented than the Eli years and you could argue 08 vs now but I think there is more overall roster talent right now. This is the most talented Ole Miss team in their history.

Not sure about that. Probably more talent overall than 03, but with a NFL top pick at QB, you can cover up a lot of weaknesses. Not sure I can roll with 08 though. Look at all these guys off that 08/09 run:

2009 - 1 - 23 - Michael Oher, OT Baltimore
2009 - 1 - 24 - Peria Jerry, DT Atlanta
2009 - 3 - 84 - Mike Wallace, WR Pittsburgh
2009 - 7 - 231 - Jamarca Sanford, S Minnesota
2010 - 2 - 36 - Dexter McCluster, RB-WR Kansas City
2010 - 3 - 73 - John Jerry, OG Miami
2010 - 5 - 136 - Kendrick Lewis, S Kansas City
2010 - 6 - 175 - Greg Hardy, DE Carolina

Add in Snead playing very well in 08, along with Hodge and few other capable WRs.......eh, they'll have to prove that they are better than O's boys. Ole Miss seems to be top heavy to me with not a whole lot of depth.
08-18-2014, 11:36 AM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

2-way street. Early Arky lost to Florida 30-10 and Bama & SoCar beat them in consecutive weeks 104-7.

very true. just don't think early season games are very indicative of a team at the end of that same year or the beginning Of the next year... which is one reason why I don't like kickoff games. If the bears were a ground em and pound em team, I think it would be different, but Hugh doesn't know how to not be cute.

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