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Originally Posted by Homedawg
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Sorry, but you are mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
And Drew Pomeranz is an Ole Miss legacy. Although, I think he had a close family member who was a manager or grad assistant with the MSU baseball team.
What did you expect LT to say? I hired Ron Polk II because I'm his and his supporters little bitch and hell, it was pretty easy and I wouldn't have to do a national search because I don't like doing that? THAT would have been the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
We could have low balled Manieri at the time and still got him. Heck, Manieri pretty much TOLD ME before the MSU Notre Dame game that he wanted to come to MSU, and if that wasn't enough, he wrote a letter to Gene Swindoll (this was pre-sixpack) which he put on Genespage talking about how much he liked the place and basically kissing our ass.
Here's how that went down:Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Fillmore
1. Pitching staff implodes with injuries because Russ McNickle had no clue what the hell he was doing. We lose to Air Force.
2. We lose a series to Ole Miss and get dominated other than a miracle near no-hitter by Ricky Bowen. Polk realizes we are going to have a losing season.
3. Polk resigns while LT is still around (if I remember correctly LT was there for like a year while Byrne transitioned to the AD position or something like that.)
4. Polk in his retirement manifesto which was miraculously only one page long recommends Tommy Raffo hoping that LT will step in and force Byrne to hire him. One of the main points was Raffo's work with the Diamond Girls. Byrne had other ideas. Thank God.
5. Rest of season was full of unintentional comedy- the baseball God's at least allow us to somehow win the Governor's Cup despite starting a walk-on catcher.
6. Byrne hires Cohen. Shit hits the fan on Polk's end.
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Originally Posted by slickdawg
The ironic thing is that Pat McMahon replaced Raffo with Cohen as his hitting coach at Florida.
It was pretty obvious Polk's main problem was not Byrne, it was Cohen. I had an older booster tell me (who thought Polk was god himself) that it was Polk's way of keeping his promise of "never throwing a player, current or former, under the bus." People I know who tried to either walk on or were recruited basically said he did not give a shit about anything. The players loved him, but that's because he was nothing more to them than a frat brother... never pushed them, never forced them to work hard for anything. His tirade was completely over the top... and probably would have carried more weight if he had not quit on us twice before (even then, I think we would have went with Cohen). Raffo's resume wasn't even in the same league as Cohen's in terms of experience and accomplishments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Maneiri would have hitchhiked from South Bend to Starkville and left all his possessions behind had we given him the opportunity at the time. One of the biggest, if not THE biggest blunder ever in the history of MSU athletics. Now, John Cohen has had to come in, clean up a monumental disaster of a mess, and reconstruct a program. Of which, he has done a pretty good job. Of all the coaches possibly available for our job, Cohen is probably the only one that would have wanted it more than Maneiri. At 2 very different times in the past, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I literally had a sick feeling in my gut when I heard LT was bringing a past-his-prime Polk back to coach MSU baseball. Should have never happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by State82
No I'm not. Don't rally care what u say. You heard yours at some quarterback club meeting wherever. I heard it straight from the horses mouth to my face. Not in front of 100 people listening to him stroke his ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
Hanging out with Pomeranz I'll bet y'all drank more than a few.
I've hated LT for a long long time. As time passes, I'm really starting to hate Polk too.
The infamous UK series that season HAS to be mentioned here. Polk gets himself kicked out of all 3 games early on to let Raffo coach against Cohen. I'm sure it was his twisted idea of a job interview for Raffo and proving he was better than Cohen head-to-head. Then Game 3 rolled around and Cohen was having none of it. Cohen gets himself ejected very shortly after Polk. The whole thing was almost as bad as Polk's anti-Byrne tirade when he was told we'd hired Cohen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Not hiring Manieri was almost as bad as not hiring Spurrier when we had the chance. One question that's always gnawed at me is this: if Stricklin were ad when Byrne hired Cohen, would Stricklin have had the balls to make the same hire? Hmmm
Yeah, the big fella can crush some alcohol. I was amazed how open and passionate he was about MSU. He flat out admitted that he wanted to wear maroon and white and play at the Dude. He pointed at it as he said it! Cool cat in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will James
I don't see how anyone can still question Stricklin's balls after the basketball situation went down. Sure, other aspects can be questioned -- but certainly not his ability to make a tough decision that he believes to be in the best interest of his university while facing considerable backlash on multiple fronts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonState
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Originally Posted by MaroonState
Striclin definitely put his nuts on the chopping block with Ray but those are two completely different situations. One, Polk was a bigger than life presence at State and was the coach when Stricklin was in school there. Stan's was not larger than life and was not a coach at State when Stric was there. Two, the choice for basketball was deciding to go down the seedy road of world wide wes or not. No such choice existed for the baseball hire. Three, the previous coach/legend said to hire Raffo and don't even think about hiring Cohen. Stan's didn't/couldn't have the ability to make such bold requests. Four, the baseball program has historically been the more prominent program of the two so going against alums with baseball would have been much harder than going against alums with basketball especially when u consider how many baseball alums are/were pro baseball players. Just my two cents of course.
Agree to disagree.
Stricklin had to fire Stansbury -- who is very close friends with his father-in-law. Thus, in essence, he had to literally go against his own family. That is every bit as difficult as Byrne "getting rid of" Polk -- who actually DID quit and was not fired(yet) but saw the writing on the wall and saw quitting ahead of time as his only opportunity to try to get his way with Raffo. Had Stansbury resigned effective at the end of 2011/2012 season in the middle of the season, you bet your ass he would have had the ability to "demand" a replacement and much of the fanbase would have fallen in line behind him exactly like they did with Polk. Stans not doing this simply shows that he'd acknowledged the fact that he didn't have the power -- and simply means he didn't have quite the "god complex" that Polk did. It has nothing to do with his ACTUAL status at MSU -- but his perceived status in his own mind.