Was 2009 our best recruiting class ever?

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Originally Posted by engie

Could you possibly attempt to skew any harder to try to make what point?

It's ****ing stupid to give Croom full credit for a class that half of the total number -- and 7-8 MAJOR contributors(contrary to your initial bullshit analysis) -- committed to Mullen. That was my damn point. Skew away.

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Whoa... you made the point that 13 of the 27 members of that class committed to Mullen. I was pointing out those 13 commits weren't the backbone of that class - any attempt to say otherwise is just Bear level spin.

Who is giving Croom full credit for a class? Im not.

Who out of the 13 I listed were major contributors? Bumphis, McPhee, Perkins and Slay all played major roles, even if you count McPhee as a Mullen commit even though he committed to Croom, and Slay who didn't show up until 2011.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Well there you go. You just proved the guys post inaccurate.

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Good try but the post isn't inaccurate. How else would I get that number if not from 247? The only reason that class was ranked 19th is because they signed 32 players.

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Originally Posted by Goat Holder

Conner is like one of those Ole Miss 4 stars that they just pull out of nowhere that make no sense. You know something is 'off' with the offer list and the ranking, but you ignore it because you 'just got a 4 starzzz!!11'.

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Yes, Conner, Templeton Hardy, James Maiden and Damien Robinson fall under that category for us. The Ole Miss list is long, but distinguished.

People need to get off the damn Croom's players BS. That is such a Bear line. Croom had put together a pretty good class but had he been retained there is no way to say that he'd have kept it all together. Sometimes I think people need a refresher of the Croom years every once in a while to remind themselves of just how pathetic we were.

Never, not once did MSU have an offense rated above 100th out of 119 teams!

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Damn, Mullen watered down the class. He got Perkins and that's it. People like to give him credit for Bumphis, but Bumphis was going to MSU. He wanted to stay close to home and play with Tyler Russell.

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That is complete BS. Bumphis wasn't even mentioning MSU before Mullen showed up. Mullen convinced him he was going to be the next Percy Harvin.

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Originally Posted by Catdawg

Good try but the post isn't inaccurate. How else would I get that number if not from 247? The only reason that class was ranked 19th is because they signed 32 players.

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B/C we didn't even have a team site on 247 in '09. Do you really think Paul would allow us to have 4 unranked players now?

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

That is complete BS. Bumphis wasn't even mentioning MSU before Mullen showed up. Mullen convinced him he was going to be the next Percy Harvin.

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This post is so inaccurate, it's funny. I actually live in Tupelo and know Chad. I agree with your earlier post though.

Whether we had a team site or not the ranking and ratings are still there. The 2009 class was ranked 19th so I guess that can't be right either.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

This post is so inaccurate, it's funny. I actually live in Tupelo and know Chad. I agree with your earlier post though.

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I love when posters use the "Im friends with this recruit, so I actually know" card.

Well, Im best friends with Chad - and he told me what I put in my post. So take that.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

This post is so inaccurate, it's funny. I actually live in Tupelo and know Chad. I agree with your earlier post though.

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Bumphis told numerous people and was even quoted in the paper as saying he wouldnt have gone to State had Croom been retained

At least those other 3 are from MS and understandable why we would get them. Conner is the out-of-state guy that to me, compares to all the GA, FL or LA kids that Ole Miss seemingly takes that have a long but questionable offer list.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The Ole Miss list is long, but distinguished.

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And so is my.......Top Gun n shit.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Bumphis told numerous people and was even quoted in the paper as saying he wouldnt have gone to State had Croom been retained

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Yeah but this guy is from Tupelo, so he really knows the da truth. Screw what Chad actually said - he knows.

Montrell Conner had all those major offers as a line backer... We were the only major school to offer him as a running back... In hindsight he would have probably been better at linebacker

Dan Mullen is the head coach that signed every single one of those players. Period. End of story.

Croom recruited a lot of them, but he didn't sign a single one of them. They all signed to play for Dan Mullen. Byrne desires as much, if not more, credit than Croom for that class IMO.

Does HoopsDawg go to Bumphis' gym and is his spotter sometimes?**

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Bumphis told numerous people and was even quoted in the paper as saying he wouldnt have gone to State had Croom been retained

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No he didn't. He said he signed with MSU b/c of Mullen. Of course he's going to say that. Croom recruited those guys for 18 months. Mullen recruited them for 3 weeks. Mullen didn't know a single commit on our list except for Bumphis. But if you guys want to give Mullen credit for that class, go to town.

Back to the original post, yes that class was the benchmark for MSU.

Yes, I give Mullen credit for the class because they ****ing signed the sheet of paper when he, not Croom, was the head coach. It doesn't matter who previously talked to them in their lives.

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Originally Posted by hacker

Yes, I give Mullen credit for the class because they ****ing signed the sheet of paper when he, not Croom, was the head coach. It doesn't matter who previously talked to them in their lives.

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Don't you know -- Houston Nutt gets credit for our 2012 class -- because had he not sucked and stopped recruiting altogether, those kids wouldn't have come to MSU**

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Originally Posted by hacker

Yes, I give Mullen credit for the class because they ****ing signed the sheet of paper when he, not Croom, was the head coach. It doesn't matter who previously talked to them in their lives.

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hahaha, sure thing bud.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

hahaha, sure thing bud.

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In 5 years as coach, how many "Croom players" did Sylvester put into the NFL?