There?s a New SEC WBB King

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I never like the Templeton doctrine of designed futility. Sold our Football home games to Jackson, Orlando, and Birmingham. He was the Polk-2 architect that nearly euthanized the baseball program. There is much truth in what you say.

That said, the Top-Donors have focus sports they love. Oklahoma has huge meat head and Walmart following. They only spend 300k on their WWB coach and hired their previous coach Cheri Coale directly from Norman High School. I think the OU coach does pull 1M but 70% is a specific donor pool of fans.

State going all in on baseball is like Iowa going all in on wrestling.

They would be proud of their championships, but no one else would even know about them.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

There's that Larry Templeton line I've been waiting for!!!

Just off the top of my head we have as alumni: Chip Crane(CEO of FL Crane), Ty Crane(President of FL Crane), Steven Warren(just sold Warren Paving for $700 million), The Howard family(Howard Industries), Tommy Nusz(Chairman and CEO of Oasis Petroleum and has given the athletic dept $20 million in the last 5 years), Richard Adkerson(Chairman of the Board Freeport-McMoran and has given the athletic dept close to $50 million in the last 10 years), George Bishop(CEO of GeoSouthern Energy and worth north of 4 billion), Heath Jenkins(sold his manufactured homes company for over $300 million back in 2023), Harris Brumfield(former CEO of Trading Technologies and worth well north of $100 million)

These are just the names off the top of my head. There's tons more and I probably forgot some big ones. We for so long have believed that tired ass lie that Larry Templeton tried to sell that we were poor and people were mailing him the couch cushion money for donations. Selmon is once and for all ridding us of that lame ass fallacy that was sold for decades. We have doctors and lawyers just like Ole Miss. Hell a majority of the doctors coming out of UMMC are Mississippi State undergrads!! Now, are we ever going to be Texas or A&M or Tech or SMU and have all this oil money? Probably not unless I strike oil out here and trust me, every one of you will know if I do. But we can compete with anyone else. It just takes buy in.

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Literally everyone has SOME rich Alumni. Hell, USM has one worth $4.9B- more than every State alum you mentioned combined. Do you think USM can compete for NCs in football and basketball? Why not if having rich alumni is all it takes? The answer is obvious; USM can't compete because said rich booster hasn't actually dropped crap tons of money on coaching salaries and NIL. If he set up a trust that sustainably allocated $40m a year to the athletic department and another $30m to FB and MBB NIL, that would change things for them.

Yes, if we could get our rich alumni to donate a significantly larger % of their net worth to our NIL than the boosters of UGA or OSU do, we'd be able to compete with them. This is also what fans of South Carolina, USF, VT, ASU, ISU, Arkansas and others say to give themselves hope. It is also the wet dream of every AD, and what they try hard to make happen every time they shake hands with one of those potentially gamechanging boosters.

At the end of the day, for all that potential and effort, there are next to no examples of a "nobody" actually pulling it off. Clemson I guess? They ain't exactly been too hot since NIL got cranked up. Indiana? Mark Cuban decided to boost them. But both those programs also nailed the HC hire preceding their rise, so we're short in that regard too. But that's another matter.

So yeah if you can convince any 1 booster to donate $100+ million we can compete, but without that? We're being drastically out funded by a lot of programs. That is our current reality. Cutting off baseball won't change that

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Literally everyone has SOME rich Alumni. Hell, USM has one worth $4.9B- more than every State alum you mentioned combined. Do you think USM can compete for NCs in football and basketball? Why not if having rich alumni is all it takes? The answer is obvious; USM can't compete because said rich booster hasn't actually dropped crap tons of money on coaching salaries and NIL. If he set up a trust that sustainably allocated $40m a year to the athletic department and another $30m to FB and MBB NIL, that would change things for them.

Yes, if we could get our rich alumni to donate a significantly larger % of their net worth to our NIL than the boosters of UGA or OSU do, we'd be able to compete with them. This is also what fans of South Carolina, USF, VT, ASU, ISU, Arkansas and others say to give themselves hope. It is also the wet dream of every AD, and what they try hard to make happen every time they shake hands with one of those potentially gamechanging boosters.

At the end of the day, for all that potential and effort, there are next to no examples of a "nobody" actually pulling it off. Clemson I guess? They ain't exactly been too hot since NIL got cranked up. Indiana? Mark Cuban decided to boost them. But both those programs also nailed the HC hire preceding their rise, so we're short in that regard too. But that's another matter.

So yeah if you can convince any 1 booster to donate $100+ million we can compete, but without that? We're being drastically out funded by a lot of programs. That is our current reality. Cutting off baseball won't change that

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We're working on that.

Also, no one is saying cut off baseball. We are just saying let the former players and the folks who care more about The Baseball Grove than the results fund the program. It's not a bad thing. They can fund it. They funded O'Conner's salary