NY times talks NIL cost by position

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Yep

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Pts and rebounds down while mins basically the same. Glad we didn't match.

ETA... don't take this as I'm happy with who we did spend on. We have our own problems, obviously

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Originally Posted by basedog

If you get paid NIL money, then you should not be receiving scholarship.

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And coaches should be making less than the men actually on the field making the plays. Andy Reid is the highest paid coach in the NFL, 120 players make more than him.

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Originally Posted by Hot Rock

And coaches should be making less than the men actually on the field making the plays. Andy Reid is the highest paid coach in the NFL, 120 players make more than him.

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And nfl owners make that decision. We (fans) pay college football players to this point while the schools pay the coaches. Schools should pay them all since they get tge revenue

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And nfl owners make that decision. We (fans) pay college football players to this point while the schools pay the coaches. Schools should pay them all since they get tge revenue

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This is not directed to you 7 but it's an appropriate place for it
I'm not sure we're all the fans - school stuff started. Prior to big tv contracts, the fans were footing the bill before. All of it. Coaches, stadiums, players( just the money was under the table and all didn't participate for this part ). Now tv contracts pay a portion. And the fans pay the rest. Which isn't new, it's just that in order to compete a greater portion of the fan base has to pony up. So this why are the fans paying for it, isn't some new revelation. How in the hell does the school get there money??? Donations, ticket sales, concessions and or concession contracts, etc. who in the hell do people think have being paying prior to now?? The tooth fairy. The price of poker went up. Who was paying for it really didn't. Our sec money doesn't sniff paying half our ath budget. I understand we wouldn't have a remote chance wo that check. But that check has gone from very small to bigger and bigger starting in about 1992. Prior to that it was pocket change. And in the nil era, again is an important piece for a small player but just a small piece. Small.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

This is not directed to you 7 but it's an appropriate place for it
I'm not sure we're all the fans - school stuff started. Prior to big tv contracts, the fans were footing the bill before. All of it. Coaches, stadiums, players( just the money was under the table and all didn't participate for this part ). Now tv contracts pay a portion. And the fans pay the rest. Which isn't new, it's just that in order to compete a greater portion of the fan base has to pony up. So this why are the fans paying for it, isn't some new revelation. How in the hell does the school get there money??? Donations, ticket sales, concessions and or concession contracts, etc. who in the hell do people think have being paying prior to now?? The tooth fairy. The price of poker went up. Who was paying for it really didn't. Our sec money doesn't sniff paying half our ath budget. I understand we wouldn't have a remote chance wo that check. But that check has gone from very small to bigger and bigger starting in about 1992. Prior to that it was pocket change. And in the nil era, again is an important piece for a small player but just a small piece. Small.

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Exactly. And we were winning all the woe is me NIL talk would be that it's just the cost of doing business.

This format sucks for us bc... well, we're poor. Not sure this is the best metric to measure NIL, but we have the smallest endowment in the sec. Under the old format, at least you had to weigh risk/reward by going all-in. Now it's just you have money or you don't.

Under this new format, competing in football every season just doesn't seem feasible. Maybe the best plan for football is punt 2 seasons and save and try to do something every 3rd season. That or do what we are: try to compete in sports with less players (MBK and baseball). Trying to fund all 3 seems like a good way to suck at all of them.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I would say we are definitely on the lower end of those ranges.

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Only because we dont have that kind of money for the most part. We buy what we can afford- but in the SEC those are the prices. We gonna find out next January I have a feeling with KT when he gets some 3-5MM offers.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Only because we dont have that kind of money for the most part. We buy what we can afford- but in the SEC those are the prices. We gonna find out next January I have a feeling with KT when he gets some 3-5MM offers.

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Well, if he does then maybe we had success. Now days it would be carry on with business as usual. We most Definitely need scouts and analysis helping with scouting and research as well as game planning.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Well, if he does then maybe we had success. Now days it would be carry on with business as usual. We most Definitely need scouts and analysis helping with scouting and research as well as game planning.

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This is where I think MSU often comes up short in the past. We want to be Moneyball but we forget that we have to have the staff to do identity and attract the talent.

MSU has never excelled at football recruiting and player acquisition. And never had focused enough on it. So MSU being resistant to the portal and NIL is the least surprising thing to me.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This is where I think MSU often comes up short in the past. We want to be Moneyball but we forget that we have to have the staff to do identity and attract the talent.

MSU has never excelled at football recruiting and player acquisition. And never had focused enough on it. So MSU being resistant to the portal and NIL is the least surprising thing to me.

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I'm interested in what money ball in football looks like. All I can figure out is some offense that no one runs... something like what the service academies do. This seems like a bad option for excitement, but it could be a path to at least being a bowl team year-in, year-out. The triple option is the last thing I wanna do; but with the massive turnover on teams, it would be like the first time a defense in the sec sees it every year.