This program is cursed. Just shut the whole place down.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You can't blame it on money when you lose to WF. Cadaver, you know I love you man, but it's Lebby. He certainly has limitations being here, but come on mane, he's garbage. He holds us back more than we hold him

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Yep, tired of everyone just blaming money for our issues. We got issues way bigger than just money.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

The biggest losers are the ones who think that the last 2 years are OK and that we can't expect any better.

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People who refuse to ever acknowledge the real problems are the ones who have been killing us since before my lifetime. Those of your ilk are just joining a long, long line of losing and perpetuating it. You people will never acknowledge any of our real issues and our circle of shatshows will continue unabated. Have a big time, keep up that short sighted view, it?s working so well for the last 80 years.

A good argument can be made that we should have cheated bigger and sooner and with more dedication and organization so that we had the infrastructure in place for the new normal when it all went above board.

MSU needs to leave the SEC. We have been left behind and there is no catching up anymore. No one wants to coach here other than BOC with the Taj Mahal of a baseball stadium we have. The powers that push the buttons don?t want to spend the money to win in football. It?s obvious. And before any of you start ripping on me that this a stupid thing to say, it?s no worse than some of the other silly shit that gets said here

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

First post from BM in a LONG time. . . . .

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I?ve been around

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Originally Posted by SaintDawg

MSU needs to leave the SEC. We have been left behind and there is no catching up anymore. No one wants to coach here other than BOC with the Taj Mahal of a baseball stadium we have. The powers that push the buttons don?t want to spend the money to win in football. It?s obvious. And before any of you start ripping on me that this a stupid thing to say, it?s no worse than some of the other silly shit that gets said here

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The only problem is if we leave we die, it’s a killer for the university and Starkville. Other than that you’re pretty much on point.

Here is what I expect to happen for the next decade:

Baseball thrives as it is being funded like a Top 5 program
Basketball continues to stay middle of the SEC as it is being funded middle of the SEC
Football remains bottom 1/4 of the SEC in wins and funding. Lebby fired. New guy is the same thing and is fired after 3-4 years. New guy after him is the same thing

We keep holding on to that SEC paycheck

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is what I expect to happen for the next decade:

Baseball thrives as it is being funded like a Top 5 program
Basketball continues to stay middle of the SEC as it is being funded middle of the SEC
Football remains bottom 1/4 of the SEC in wins and funding. Lebby fired. New guy is the same thing and is fired after 3-4 years. New guy after him is the same thing

We keep holding on to that SEC paycheck

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If funding doesn’t change this is exactly what will happen.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is what I expect to happen for the next decade:

Baseball thrives as it is being funded like a Top 5 program
Basketball continues to stay middle of the SEC as it is being funded middle of the SEC
Football remains bottom 1/4 of the SEC in wins and funding. Lebby fired. New guy is the same thing and is fired after 3-4 years. New guy after him is the same thing

We keep holding on to that SEC paycheck

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If that is the game plan might as well be dead last in football funding and put it towards being top 1/4th in Basketball

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is what I expect to happen for the next decade:

Baseball thrives as it is being funded like a Top 5 program
Basketball continues to stay middle of the SEC as it is being funded middle of the SEC
Football remains bottom 1/4 of the SEC in wins and funding. Lebby fired. New guy is the same thing and is fired after 3-4 years. New guy after him is the same thing

We keep holding on to that SEC paycheck

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That's why I'm losing interest in MSU athletics. Never dreamed I would. But why should I invest my time and money into
It if the program isn't investing theirs?

If this Ole Miss run doesn't wake our program up, it ain't waking up. Bc nothing tends to motivate each program like the other one reaching the mountain top

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

If that is the game plan might as well be dead last in football funding and put it towards being top 1/4th in Basketball

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This is the approach we should take. We only have to buy3-4 top basketball players yet football takes about 30 so we could win in basketball. At least rather be winning in 2 sports instead of 1.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

This is the approach we should take. We only have to buy3-4 top basketball players yet football takes about 30 so we could win in basketball. At least rather be winning in 2 sports instead of 1.

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How much do y'all think we are spending in basketball this year?

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

How much do y'all think we are spending in basketball this year?

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If I had to guess, 3 million bulk of that being Hubbard. Apparently Sean Jones Jr. is getting $200k. I bet Hubbard is right below $1mil. That is purely my guess.

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First, I would never ?want? to leave the SEC for many reasons. However, when I hear someone say that would kill our program, my response has to be we have been attending the Wake for the past 3 years.

I find it interesting that Arkansas couldn?t field a winning team but Arkansas State did and played and won a bowl game. Harding University played Ferris State for the DII NC last week.

Southern Miss usually has decent success in the SunBelt and they have a heck of a competitive baseball program.

Tulane, a perennial bottom feeder has had much success in the past 8 years.

Kennesaw State, Ga., in their 2nd year in FBS had a winning record.

James Madison, in their 3rd year, played in the playoffs. Did t deserve it, but won enough games to qualify by the current rules.

In fact, the SEC is So Top Heavy that the bottom 4 all finished 1-7 in league play. No wonder the SEC sucked in bowls and playoff games this year. The top beat up on the bottom.

Non-the-less, State doesn?t need to drop into the G5 until State is told to by the upper echelon of The Professional Minor League Football Organization.

All it takes is one Dickie Scruggs.

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More, significantly more.

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I've read this, and I'm not saying it's wrong, but I wonder how it's calculated. Is it 10 million this season or 10 million committed over multiple seasons? I mean, think about it...

Jones' 200 k is widely reported here, so 9.8 million for 14 players. Chol, Warren, and Paul aren't getting 200k. Hubbard is obviously getting a ton, but how much?

This season is what I understood.

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More, significantly more.

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Besides #1, the best lottery pick players top 10 are getting about 2 million according to reports and everything I have read. If you have inside info and knowledge within the athletic department and program then ok but if you don?t you are wrong.

How much is Hubbard getting?