Johns an expected hire? What's everyone's thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Pancho

stfu with the retard comment. Sounds like we ultimately agree deep down. Give us a list of who you wanted Lebby to consider to hire. Early happy new year to your quotes.

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I mean, it's a pretty stupid comment. "Let the coaches do their job!" when I'm literally not stopping them from doing that.

That's like me going to a restaurant, taking a bite out of my steak, and saying "my steak is a little overcooked" and then you shout from another table "LET THE CHEF DO HIS JOB!!" I mean, that's just dumb. I just gave an opinion.

Brian Williams is the guy I wanted that there was some interest in. Really good recruiter, had some good DLs at Maryland.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I mean, it's a pretty stupid comment. "Let the coaches do their job!" when I'm literally not stopping them from doing that.

That's like me going to a restaurant, taking a bite out of my steak, and saying "my steak is a little overcooked" and then you shout from another table "LET THE CHEF DO HIS JOB!!" I mean, that's just dumb. I just gave an opinion.

Brian Williams is the guy I wanted that there was some interest in. Really good recruiter, had some good DLs at Maryland.

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thx for mentioning Williams, he is a good guy it seems. I enjoy the restaurant bravado too. comedy goes down good with coffee. let them chefs(lebby and crew) cook!

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

What else are we waiting on? WR?

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Still waiting on WR. A lot of rumors out there that it may end up being Seth Littrell, which would give us 3 former HCs on staff. I do know that they are working to get Seth on staff in some capacity, just unknown on the capacity and there have been some rumors that it would be WR coach.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Still waiting on WR. A lot of rumors out there that it may end up being Seth Littrell, which would give us 3 former HCs on staff. I do know that they are working to get Seth on staff in some capacity, just unknown on the capacity and there have been some rumors that it would be WR coach.

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Won't be surprised if it's Tim Harris Jr

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Won't be surprised if it's Tim Harris Jr

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That's another name I've heard. He could also replace the Miami recruiting area and we could completely pull Bell off of recruiting.

He also could bring a couple of FSU WRs with him and maybe reunite Gavin Sawchuck with Lebby. He'd be a great RB2 behind Fluff.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Still waiting on WR. A lot of rumors out there that it may end up being Seth Littrell, which would give us 3 former HCs on staff. I do know that they are working to get Seth on staff in some capacity, just unknown on the capacity and there have been some rumors that it would be WR coach.

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It very well may be Steve Jr.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

It very well may be Steve Jr.

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I don't see that happening. At least not as the primary WR coach. Maybe he's an analyst or something but I don't see him being brought in as the primary WR coach. That would be quite a disappointing hire. He wasn't really good when he was here and I still am pissed that he wouldn't take Malik Nabors call when he wanted to transfer here after the 2021 season.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I don't see that happening. At least not as the primary WR coach. Maybe he's an analyst or something but I don't see him being brought in as the primary WR coach. That would be quite a disappointing hire. He wasn't really good when he was here and I still am pissed that he wouldn't take Malik Nabors call when he wanted to transfer here after the 2021 season.

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We are going to disagree with this, but it's all good. I though he did a great job on coaching and recruiting. With out Jr, Rara never excels. etc.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I hear ya but I watched Josh Allen and Caleb Williams miss easy throws today that just cant be excused. Blows my mind

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Lol, gotcha . I thought you were referring to guys consistently missing throws.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I don't see that happening. At least not as the primary WR coach. Maybe he's an analyst or something but I don't see him being brought in as the primary WR coach. That would be quite a disappointing hire. He wasn't really good when he was here and I still am pissed that he wouldn't take Malik Nabors call when he wanted to transfer here after the 2021 season.

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Really?.he wouldn?t take MN?s call? No thanks then. You?re right

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Originally Posted by Coach34

DLine coach is about being able to motivate and recruit. Every DL coach in college football does the same drills 75% of the time. You teach hand technique, body lean, and read keys. The shit aint hard. DL guys are animals with anger issues quite often- you have to be able to manage personalities. That is what a DL coach does. If he is good at it- they will kill for him. Thats why guys like Coach O are good DL coaches- players love his ass. Will do anything for him

Warren needs to be a guy that teaches solid technique and someone the guys will kill for

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Good post

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Originally Posted by Thick

Really?.he wouldn?t take MN?s call? No thanks then. You?re right

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Have no idea. What I do know is who he recruited and how they did under him.

Makai Polk
Zavion Thomas
Rara Thomas
Creed Whittemore
Marquez "Mojo" Dortch
Antonio Harmon
Rufus Harvey

Several on that list did nothing but create drama. Great potential, but that?s about it. I never understood why we never used Creed much at all. Was he dumb, bad attitude, a screw up, etc?

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Originally Posted by Thick

Several on that list did nothing but create drama. Great potential, but that?s about it. I never understood why we never used Creed much at all. Was he dumb, bad attitude, a screw up, etc?

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Judging by the fact that he really didn't get on the field all that much at Utah, it lends itself to either he's not as good as he was hyped or he can't learn the playbook.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Have no idea. What I do know is who he recruited and how they did under him.

Makai Polk
Zavion Thomas
Rara Thomas
Creed Whittemore
Marquez "Mojo" Dortch
Antonio Harmon
Rufus Harvey

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Polk was good for one year but then didn't listen to the coaches and left early.
Thomas was up and down and there was no consistency and left the moment he got the LSU offer
Rara was up and down and there was no consistency. Also left us high and dry the moment he got a good offer.
Whittemore looks more and more like a bust every day
Dortch was a bust
Harmon was a bust
Harvey had a heart condition so u/d on that one but I wouldn't say he blew anyone away.

I really wouldn't say he was this elite recruiter. He got guys who could catch balls, the primary job of a receiver, and we played an ass ton of WRs. Leach's offense made the WRs, not the other way around. It also wasn't Spurrier recruiting elite WRs. We missed on PLENTY. Now you're an AR guy so you have an affinity for anyone on that staff. I think that's probably the biggest thing here.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Polk was good for one year but then didn't listen to the coaches and left early.
Thomas was up and down and there was no consistency and left the moment he got the LSU offer
Rara was up and down and there was no consistency. Also left us high and dry the moment he got a good offer.
Whittemore looks more and more like a bust every day
Dortch was a bust
Harmon was a bust
Harvey had a heart condition so u/d on that one but I wouldn't say he blew anyone away.

I really wouldn't say he was this elite recruiter. He got guys who could catch balls, the primary job of a receiver, and we played an ass ton of WRs. Leach's offense made the WRs, not the other way around. It also wasn't Spurrier recruiting elite WRs. We missed on PLENTY. Now you're an AR guy so you have an affinity for anyone on that staff. I think that's probably the biggest thing here.

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No, the biggest thing here is Jr can recruit and he gets his wrs ready. And thats the bottom line.

Lebby's offense blends Air Raid passing principles with a robust run game and play-action.

Whittemore never got to play under Leach nor Jr. To use him as an example of a bust is disingenuous. The reason he is mentioned is that Jr got him from Florida gators.

Z. Thomas likewise did not play under Jr or Leach. He was a true freshman. But he was productive at LSU.

Rara was consistent. His first year he had 18 catches while Polk set records. His 2nd year he took in 45 catches. Then UGA paid him.

Harmon, goes back to the same issue as Zavion. Who coached him? Barbay's people.

Again, not saying that Jr is the guy. I am saying it could be. And no, I would not be mad about it.

I remember when the Board got mad at me for calling Whittemore ol white legs and not singing his praises. He caught 12 passes this year at Utah as a Jr.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

No, the biggest thing here is Jr can recruit and he gets his wrs ready. And thats the bottom line.

Lebby's offense blends Air Raid passing principles with a robust run game and play-action.

Whittemore never got to play under Leach nor Jr. To use him as an example of a bust is disingenuous. The reason he is mentioned is that Jr got him from Florida gators.

Z. Thomas likewise did not play under Jr or Leach. He was a true freshman. But he was productive at LSU.

Rara was consistent. His first year he had 18 catches while Polk set records. His 2nd year he took in 45 catches. Then UGA paid him.

Harmon, goes back to the same issue as Zavion. Who coached him? Barbay's people.

Again, not saying that Jr is the guy. I am saying it could be. And no, I would not be mad about it.

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It'll be the same as Bumphis. Lebby will have to do the heavy lifting with recruiting anyone worth a damn and Spurrier will recruit a bunch of projects that you hope pan out. My guess? They won't.

We need someone who can recruit at that position and develop. Spurrier, and Bumphis too(I'm not absolving him), couldn't recruit and couldn't develop. Leach's offense was the reasons guys like Polk looked good. Same with Austin Williams, Scooby Ford, Justin Robinson, etc. RaRa had some physical abilities but his route running was crap. It didn't get better.

Also, Zavion did play under Leach and Spurrier(see 2022).

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It'll be the same as Bumphis. Lebby will have to do the heavy lifting with recruiting anyone worth a damn and Spurrier will recruit a bunch of projects that you hope pan out. My guess? They won't.

We need someone who can recruit at that position and develop. Spurrier, and Bumphis too(I'm not absolving him), couldn't recruit and couldn't develop. Leach's offense was the reasons guys like Polk looked good. Same with Austin Williams, Scooby Ford, Justin Robinson, etc. RaRa had some physical abilities but his route running was crap. It didn't get better.

Also, Zavion did play under Leach and Spurrier(see 2022).

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Correct. He was a freshman and his main duty was punt return. He played under Barbay. Rara, all you can really go by is what he produced. And he got better while here. The numbers proves that. The $$$ UGA spent to get him prove that. But again... This is all mute. Lebby is going to hire who he is going to hire.

Any updates on WR coach?