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12-25-2025, 06:13 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Pancho

where he looking to go this time?

There were some rumors about him talking to Arkansas and Kentucky.
12-26-2025, 02:14 AM
The Federalist Engineer

FWIW...

Wake Forest is losing 15 dudes to the portal. Two key WRs and a TE that contributed.

This will be (Roster Size) a 70 vs 70 game or so?
12-26-2025, 02:24 AM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Pancho

where he looking to go this time?

Michigan is looking a Todd Monken, a dude MSU would not want and USM got shafted-by. That's pretty much a trash hire, wow.

Dan Mullen's agent should give them a call. They obviously don't have candidates or standards in Michigan. "Give my boy a chance, we'll sign a 1-year contract and win a Big10 or bust in 2026." Just don't pull Hevesy from his job a Homedepot. That boy needs to stock shelves and stay away from football fields.
12-26-2025, 08:38 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Michigan is looking a Todd Monken, a dude MSU would not want and USM got shafted-by. That's pretty much a trash hire, wow.

Dan Mullen's agent should give them a call. They obviously don't have candidates or standards in Michigan. "Give my boy a chance, we'll sign a 1-year contract and win a Big10 or bust in 2026." Just don't pull Hevesy from his job a Homedepot. That boy needs to stock shelves and stay away from football fields.

Search seems to be turning to Kyle Whittingham.

Also, John is at Lowe?s. And FWIW, we have not fielded an O Line as good as 17 since. For all his faults, he could put 5 guys together and get every bit of talent out of them. I would take John back tomorrow. We may not get any 5 stars but our line would be MILES better immediately.
12-26-2025, 09:10 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Search seems to be turning to Kyle Whittingham.

Also, John is at Lowe?s. And FWIW, we have not fielded an O Line as good as 17 since. For all his faults, he could put 5 guys together and get every bit of talent out of them. I would take John back tomorrow. We may not get any 5 stars but our line would be MILES better immediately.

We ain't getting 5-stars anyway
12-26-2025, 01:07 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Pancho

where he looking to go this time?

It's more of a mental check out. The regular season is too long for him.
12-26-2025, 02:50 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Defensively we are going to need some guys to step up in the back end. With Mitchell not with the team and Issac and Manning not playing, you are going to have to have some guys really step up in the back end. Oddly enough, Burnside screwed himself going into the portal because he could have put some tape up in this game for teams. That more and more tells me someone has gotten into his ear and his mother?s ear and told them he could play WR somewhere next year.

Seems like Manning is playing
12-26-2025, 07:12 PM
msudawg1200

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We have gone from -4.5 to -2.5 on Fan Duel. It's my understanding Isaac Smith and Booth are not playing in the bowl. I assume Tony Mitchell is out as well. Has anyone heard of others?

It opened at -2.5 and is now at -3 to -3.5 on all major books except Fan Duel where it's -2.5.
12-27-2025, 02:30 PM
The Federalist Engineer

Wake Forest has a nice Defense #26 in Total Defense and 39 in scoring defense. MSU is 3rd Tier in Defense.

MSU scores more offensively.

Wake got a nice win versus SMU, shut down the ponies in the second half and pulled a very unlikely last second 50-yard FG win. Brutal for SMU. Similar win vs UVA with punt return TD and two long FG for a 16-9 win
12-27-2025, 02:39 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Search seems to be turning to Kyle Whittingham.

Also, John is at Lowe?s. And FWIW, we have not fielded an O Line as good as 17 since. For all his faults, he could put 5 guys together and get every bit of talent out of them. I would take John back tomorrow. We may not get any 5 stars but our line would be MILES better immediately.

He also had some lines like 2015. If he was that good he wouldn't be at Lowe's right now.
12-27-2025, 02:40 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Michigan is looking a Todd Monken, a dude MSU would not want and USM got shafted-by. That's pretty much a trash hire, wow.

Dan Mullen's agent should give them a call. They obviously don't have candidates or standards in Michigan. "Give my boy a chance, we'll sign a 1-year contract and win a Big10 or bust in 2026." Just don't pull Hevesy from his job a Homedepot. That boy needs to stock shelves and stay away from football fields.

MSU fans think a lot higher of Dan than everyone else in America does.
12-27-2025, 02:59 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

MSU fans think a lot higher of Dan than everyone else in America does.

Because a program like State cannot do any better than Dan Mullen. Geoff Levvy is a prime example.
12-27-2025, 03:56 PM
Leeshouldveflanked

Dan Mullen took a big ole s-h-i-t on MSU when he left.
12-27-2025, 04:43 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

MSU fans think a lot higher of Dan than everyone else in America does.

Dan's QB at UNLV is in the portal. The MWC POY is reported to be a Tennessee target.

This is the kind of Portal kid I would love to get. But people are going to bid this dude up like the new Pavia or Chambliss. He will make more next season than he probably will be worth to the NFL.
12-27-2025, 05:30 PM
AROB44

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

MSU fans think a lot higher of Dan than everyone else in America does.

But.....there are a lot of people who think much more highly of him than you and some others on here.
12-27-2025, 07:24 PM
1eyedog

I just wish two things for Dan/TheDogs......That 14 team didn’t fall apart against Bama and then get embarrassed by om when if they could have won they had a great argument for the playoffs. Still don’t understand the def cord situation the end of that year. Also DM leaving the VERY YEAR he could have really beaten some folks......oh well.....it is what it is....
12-27-2025, 11:36 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by AROB44

But.....there are a lot of people who think much more highly of him than you and some others on here.

Appears to be more in my boat than the other.
12-28-2025, 11:18 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Wake Forest has a nice Defense #26 in Total Defense and 39 in scoring defense. MSU is 3rd Tier in Defense.

MSU scores more offensively.

Wake got a nice win versus SMU, shut down the ponies in the second half and pulled a very unlikely last second 50-yard FG win. Brutal for SMU. Similar win vs UVA with punt return TD and two long FG for a 16-9 win

Lost to GT but had them beat most of the game.
12-28-2025, 01:05 PM
AROB44

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Appears to be more in my boat than the other.

That's your opinion. Not sure what Dan did to you, but he was here 9 years which is about the life of a coach at one school. Plus he's the best coach we've had in the past 70 years (except for JWS).
12-28-2025, 01:44 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by AROB44

That's your opinion. Not sure what Dan did to you, but he was here 9 years which is about the life of a coach at one school. Plus he's the best coach we've had in the past 70 years (except for JWS).

I can tell you what Dan did. He shopped himself every season. His wife talked trash about Starkville. When he had the #1 team in America, he wanted out. So no.. He did not give us 9 years. He gave us a half ass effort and bolted as soon as he found another job FOR THE SAME PAY we offered him.

There are no excuses for what he did when we were #1. His mind was not on finishing the season. It was on "I'm outta here".

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